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Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« on: April 29, 2011, 04:05:07 PM »
Anyone have this camera? Is it worth buying? I have used sony products before and never had any problems.

This one does 1080i video, 16x optical zoom, has sweep panorama and also does 3D. It has a CMOS sensor. And when you sometimes record video you no longer will see those huge never ending lines of vertical light (usually in concerts). Also records audio in stereo, only thing missing is PCM audio recording (which I have on my canon sx210).

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666290110

Saw some videos on youtube, looks really decent.

Your thoughts? Is it better than the panasonic zs10?

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2011, 11:50:34 PM »
better than the zs10

it does 1080p60

I ordered one so I will let you know. 
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011, 07:04:14 PM »
Can you link to some of the YT videos? Esp any concert ones? (I want to hear the audio...)
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 10:07:31 PM »
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2011, 04:36:48 AM »
Ive also been looking at choosing between this and the zs10.

i did find this clip on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u71uVxHCCHU

Also if anyone has got one yet any limits on the 1080 recording time?


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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2011, 05:19:55 AM »
Hmmm, the NZ Sony site says: Movie Recording Time    Max. approx. 29min continuously per movie   : http://www.sony.co.nz/product/dsc-hx9v/sku/dsc-hx9v_b++au2
They also have it under Archived cameras / discontinued  ??? 

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 06:12:54 AM »
wonder why discontinued here as its a new release, its a lot cheaper to get out of NZ
sucks about the time limit, was hoping for longer than 29mins...the zs10 is the same though
 

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2011, 06:17:06 PM »
I took my Hx9v to Mexico for U2, it was basically the 1st time I used it.

Pros
very good stabilization (best i have ever seen)
good color
alot of features and controls

Cons
I dont like how the zoom lever works, it is not sensative enough
zoom not smooth
movie record button is too small
it had trouble focusing at times(mainly due to lights in background)

Here are the video clips (with cam audio)

May 11th
http://www.youtube.com/user/u2rulesmyworld#p/a/u/1/b_4oGhHaB8E

May 15th
http://www.youtube.com/user/u2rulesmyworld#p/a/u/0/bZKdssnWbAc

scene was set to 'snow' and EV to -2.0 night 1 and -1.7 night 3

Both clips were shot 1080p60 and converted to 720p30 for yt in sony vegas pro 10
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 06:03:43 PM »
the footage is really good, very clear. As for the audio, sure its not the best but its pretty good. Besides I always carry an external audio recorder so sound for me on a camera is never an issue. I say just carry a small audio recorder if you want great sound quality.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2011, 07:12:30 PM »
I took my Hx9v to Mexico for U2, it was basically the 1st time I used it.

scene was set to 'snow' and EV to -2.0 night 1 and -1.7 night 3


"Snow" eh?  Interesting.  I use "spotlight" on my Sony HDR-CX520v.  For my Lumix zs3 I couldn't figure out what would be a comparable setting so I usually just run it on auto.  However, this still does occasionally blow out the heads.  Now that you've mentioned it, I can see how "snow" would give similar results as "spotlight," making the brightest points normal white instead of over exposed.  Gotta try it next time. 

Nice work on the U2!     :)
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2011, 02:29:00 AM »
Here is a museum tour I shot with the Hx9v
This is real time, no external stabilizing, no stabilizing in post.
shot full auto with 'tracking focus'

completely hand held, 1st take, 1 take

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RqCFUjMyYA

imo the stabilization in this video is stunning,  if you disagree try doing this.  I dont have that steady a hand
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2011, 02:51:37 AM »
i really wanna buy this, just dont have the money atm. BTW did you take any photos with this? If so maybe post some samples?  ;D

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2011, 03:36:01 AM »
anyone tested if all video modes limited to 29mins or just the 1080??
trying to decide between this and Panasonic ZS10

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2011, 01:30:39 PM »
anyone tested if all video modes limited to 29mins or just the 1080??
trying to decide between this and Panasonic ZS10

Photos:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.200312153344222.45864.100000963157487
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.200313806677390.45866.100000963157487

I didnt take any pix during the concerts all video then.  I shot some high res panoramas @ Teothiuacan but the resolution is too high for FB

@monkeyguy, there is a 29m limit on all modes according to the literature
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2011, 01:45:09 AM »
My other thread got Hijacked by HX9V questions so I will answer them here

Both PAL and NTSC versions limit recording to about 29 minutes
We had both versions at the Anaheim U2 show. 
PAL = europe sales
NTSC = North America sales

alot of the other questions have been answered above
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2011, 05:13:40 AM »
finally managed to order one of these and get shipped to new zealand at a reasonable price, should have it in next few days, looking forward to trying it out...

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2011, 08:12:09 AM »
Mine is on its way also, just got the "shipped" notice from Amazon.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2011, 10:50:18 PM »
I tried out my new HX9V in Chicago this week.   Is it a replacement for my full size camcoder?  No... but it fits in my pocket and performs quite well for what it is.  I think I miss manual focus more than anything.  And the zoom is too fast - I was unable to get smooth, slow zooms. 

I had a lot of fun with the panorama photo feature, although I haven't perfected its use yet.  It seems to lose a little vertical coverage in that mode.  I got some nifty Chicago skyline pics and a panoramic view of the Evanston SPACE, where Kaki King was playing.

Here is a video of Kaki King that I shot.  The camera is hand held and nearly fully zoomed.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2011, 07:58:24 PM »
Mine is on its way also, just got the "shipped" notice from Amazon.

awesome, let us know how well it performs on concerts, i want to know the sound on this if its good enough to replace an external audio recorder with mic

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2011, 01:56:35 PM »
Mine is on its way also, just got the "shipped" notice from Amazon.

awesome, let us know how well it performs on concerts, i want to know the sound on this if its good enough to replace an external audio recorder with mic

ITs not but sound is decent and listenable
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2011, 01:46:27 PM »
I've got one on the way to me now. Not totally sold on the audio, but it seems to be a better upgrade to the ZS3 than anything else out there now...
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2011, 09:17:38 PM »
I took my HX9v to Colbie Caillat last night
Full Auto and this was a VERY dark show so if you want to judge low light performance this is a good example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooozj92GWbA
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2011, 10:31:16 PM »
How does it look on a  HDTV? I recorded robin trower in a low light club setting in auto with -2 ev and the noise level is to me unacceptable...looks like interference,which is typical of any camera with the gain at max.Im sure eventually sony will give a wider range of control on these pocket cams but i wont hold my breath as that would eat into there prosumer camera lineup.Even on the most expensive consumer cx 550 you can not lock the shutter speed and control the iris,or gain.Anyways these are great fit in your pocket cameras but for me are very limited for video being forced to shoot auto.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2011, 04:45:53 PM »
Took mine for a test other night, heres one i quickly did to get online

Rise Against Auckland - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQILFnKW6CE
recorded it in 1080p and final cut pro doesnt take the mts file so had to convert it first, so bit of quality lost between getting from original file to youtube..

The sound isnt from the camera, but from my external audio recording.
I was about 5metres away from the stack, so the sound on the camera was good apart from when the bass drum hits it brickwalled, but makes a good reference for lining up external audio, so not too fussed about that.

Also played around taking photos as well... find between about 13x-16x zoom u definately get a bit of noise in the photos, but seems to get hidden in certain colors.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2011, 06:25:40 PM »
Not really for stealthing, or open (Since I would run mics) but perfect for shooting home video stuff and wanting HQ Audio...

Sony HX9V with a Sony M10 mounted to a grip...





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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2011, 11:41:35 PM »
Chrisedge, what is that grip and where did you get it?
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2011, 01:17:52 PM »
Chrisedge, what is that grip and where did you get it?

I've had it in my camera bag for at least 15 years, so not sure where I got it. But I googled "camera grip" and found a version here:
http://www.thecamerahunter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TCH&Product_Code=FLABRKT2SHOE&Category_Code=FL

plus I needed a "Hot Shoe to Tripod" adaptor that I got a Samys.

Any decent Camera shop should have what you need to do this. I saw it on a HX9V blog with a flat flash mount, and the Hot Shoe adaptor.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2011, 08:23:14 PM »
Just finished a 2 HX9V Cam edit of the Foo Fighters on 10/17/2011. I recorded audio via SP AT933 > Batt Box > M10.

My Hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8xNBzC0Af0

BTW, things I don't like over my ZS3, focusing issues, much harder to change settings, more muted colors ("duller" picture) plus I recorded in the wrong format (1440x1080) but it still looks good...
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2011, 07:52:10 AM »
BTW, things I don't like over my ZS3, focusing issues, much harder to change settings, more muted colors ("duller" picture) plus I recorded in the wrong format (1440x1080) but it still looks good...

I have a ZS7 and a HXV9 - and I agree with the "duller" picture description.  However, I have no problems with focusing the HXV9 - it stays nicely in focus while zooming in and out; whereas the ZS7 goes in and out of focus virtually every time I zoom in or out.

Very nice clip of FF.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2011, 12:43:01 PM »
BTW, things I don't like over my ZS3, focusing issues, much harder to change settings, more muted colors ("duller" picture) plus I recorded in the wrong format (1440x1080) but it still looks good...

I have a ZS7 and a HXV9 - and I agree with the "duller" picture description.  However, I have no problems with focusing the HXV9 - it stays nicely in focus while zooming in and out; whereas the ZS7 goes in and out of focus virtually every time I zoom in or out.

Very nice clip of FF.

I think it might have just been the lighting at Foo. Both my camera and my buddies (he's the one in the stands...brand new to filming) would go out at similar times.  I shot the opener at this with my ZS3 and it seemed to have stayed in focus better, but it has issues too. Usually zooming out will quickly fix it ZS3 focus, whereas the HX9V would still sometimes be out of focus when I would try that.

I had to still darken up the HX9V footage, sharpen and boost the colors a bit to make it more vivid. But it's fantastic overall and I got it for a steal so I am happy I bought it.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2011, 08:16:53 AM »
I have not yet recorded an entire show with this just a few songs occasionaly.I do have a show coming up that i plan to record the whole thing. My question is how much time are you guys getting with the  FG 1 and BG 1 batteries zooming mildly.

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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2011, 09:34:05 AM »
I used the battery that came with it and a generic and was fine for the 2 1/2 hour Foo show. I had another generic but didnt need it...used a whole other camera for opener.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2011, 06:28:06 PM »
So what camera will give me better video overall?

The Lumix DMC-ZS7 or the Sony DSC-HX9V ?

I see the Sony allows zoom while recording but what about recording time?
Is it unlimited like the Lumix?

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2011, 06:44:26 PM »
So what camera will give me better video overall?

The Lumix DMC-ZS7 or the Sony DSC-HX9V ?

I see the Sony allows zoom while recording but what about recording time?
Is it unlimited like the Lumix?

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As far as I know, there are no point-and-shoot cams that shoot unlimited 1080 HD - most have a 30 minute (give or take) limit.  The ZS7 only shoots up to 720 HD, so that's why it goes unlimited.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2011, 06:58:30 PM »
I wonder if the next model Lumix will do unlimited @ 1080? Specs should be announced late January.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2011, 08:33:02 PM »
I wonder if the next model Lumix will do unlimited @ 1080? Specs should be announced late January.

The ZS10 that came out in February 2011 had the same time limitation as all the others when shooting in full HD .
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2011, 10:00:00 AM »
Waiting for a camera with HD video which seemlessly auto-starts a new file at the 30min limit, just like our audio recorders do at the 2GB file limit.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2011, 10:16:06 AM »
Waiting for a camera with HD video which seemlessly auto-starts a new file at the 30min limit, just like our audio recorders do at the 2GB file limit.

I'm not sure when that'll be.  But I really don't see the need to wait - especially if it means you're going to miss some good opportunities to capture some tasty jams.  As long as you keep an eye on it, stopping and restarting between songs every 20-25 minutes is easy to do and you only miss a little crowd cheer.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2011, 12:49:47 PM »
I'd like it for start & forget situations so I don't have to worry about checking the camera(s) during a set- especially for odd camera placements, several cameras in different locations, etc.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2011, 01:47:30 PM »
I'd also like it for easier syncing with audio in post.  Syncing one long clip takes a quarter of the time of syncing four short clips.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2011, 02:52:38 PM »
Magic lantern   free firmware does this for Canon dslr perhaps there is a version for one of the Canon point and shoots.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2011, 09:42:21 AM »
My Costco has the Lumix ZS10 for on sale for 199.99 & the Canon HX9V on sale for 249.99.......

When the 30 min of HD recording is up on the Canon or Lumix do they just stop or does the cameras shut down?
Price isn't the issue I just want the obvious, good quality & focus in low concert light. Which one?
First one to get three votes is the one I go & buy.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2011, 04:29:51 PM »
My Costco has the Lumix ZS10 for on sale for 199.99 & the Canon HX9V on sale for 249.99.......

When the 30 min of HD recording is up on the Canon or Lumix do they just stop or does the cameras shut down?
Price isn't the issue I just want the obvious, good quality & focus in low concert light. Which one?
First one to get three votes is the one I go & buy.

Thanks,
Datfly

I recommend you go on youtube and search for concert footage shot with both cameras and make a comparison.

I had serious problems with the focus on the ZS10 that I don't have with the HX9V - but I only had the ZS10 for a few weeks before it went for a swim (never to work again), so I don't have nearly as much experience with it.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2011, 08:40:27 PM »
First one to get three votes is the one I go & buy.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2011, 04:13:16 PM »
I like my HX9V...

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2012, 01:58:46 PM »
This camera is discontimued....is there a replacement for it yet?

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2012, 07:27:33 AM »
This camera is discontimued....is there a replacement for it yet?

direct from sony refurbs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/REFURBISHED-16-2-MP-Sony-Cyber-shot-Digital-Camera-HX9V-Black-DSCHX9V-B-/260927533888?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item3cc07e3340

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2012, 08:19:53 PM »
Check Castco. My local south Florida Costco still has them on sale brand new for 289.00
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2012, 10:07:25 PM »
Thanks for the links,but i was just wondering what the replacement had to offer really.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2012, 05:52:35 AM »
This camera is discontimued....is there a replacement for it yet?

direct from sony refurbs

http://www.ebay.com/itm/REFURBISHED-16-2-MP-Sony-Cyber-shot-Digital-Camera-HX9V-Black-DSCHX9V-B-/260927533888?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item3cc07e3340

Can't help but wonder...if they are well made...why would there be refurbs available for a camera that can't be more than a year or two old?

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2012, 10:36:47 AM »
Besides the original Sony battery, what batteries are you guys using with this camera?

I picked up a pair of these generics from Amazon, but they're crap:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0032GWZXE

Despite charging overnight, I can't get more than a half hour with them on the HX9V.

Definitely need some more batteries, and while I don't want to pay out the ass for Sony batteries, I also don't want to waste any more money on batteries that don't work.

Any suggestions?


BTW, here's what I was able to capture on my first run with the camera (video):

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2012, 05:11:38 PM »
I actually have 4 of those and they seem to work OK in mine. I get anywhere from 45-65 minutes per battery. Not quite as long as the Sony original, but for $5-6 a piece I am ok with them.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2012, 09:11:57 AM »
I actually have 4 of those and they seem to work OK in mine. I get anywhere from 45-65 minutes per battery. Not quite as long as the Sony original, but for $5-6 a piece I am ok with them.

Thanks Chris. I'm wondering if it's the charger. I'm using the camera to charge one of them now for the first time and will see if that's any better. Had one of the batteries on the charger it came with for ~12 hours yesterday and had zero charge. :(
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2012, 12:43:18 PM »
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You Really Got Me
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2012, 05:03:58 PM »
Nice work per usual, Chris.

Turns out the problem for me with those batteries was the charger. It just doesn't work at all. Charged the batteries in the camera and got 60 minutes a piece out of them. Not quite the same juice as the stock battery, but also not horrible for ~$5 each.

Here's 2 nights of Primus I shot with the HX9V last week:

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2012, 03:12:03 PM »
Picked up a second HX9V.  ;D

Here's a quick and dirty edit of one song from a shoot I did the other night. The 2 HX9Vs are the stationary cams (wide shot and right-side stage), with its bigger brother, the HX100V, handheld:

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #57 on: February 27, 2012, 11:55:58 AM »
Dave, Chris, and anyone else shooting 1080 with this HX9V - are you stopping/starting between songs? How much time does this take?

I'm using a Samsung videocam that limits file size to 15mins in 1080, but it auto starts a new "chapter" and I can link up chapters seamlessly in post. Can this be done with the HX9V?

Not happy with the low-light results on the Samsung and these videos you guys've shot look great.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #58 on: February 27, 2012, 12:59:31 PM »
It's not a seamless stop/start. It takes at least a few seconds.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2012, 01:41:51 PM »
Dave, Chris, and anyone else shooting 1080 with this HX9V - are you stopping/starting between songs? How much time does this take?

I'm using a Samsung videocam that limits file size to 15mins in 1080, but it auto starts a new "chapter" and I can link up chapters seamlessly in post. Can this be done with the HX9V?

Not happy with the low-light results on the Samsung and these videos you guys've shot look great.

You hit the file size limit (2GB) every ~10 minutes when recording at highest quality. These files are seamless.

However, it will only record for ~30 minutes at a time, then it stops, writes, and you have to hit record again. You'll lose a few seconds here, every time you have to hit record again.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
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« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2012, 01:02:35 PM »
Doesn't look like much has changed. Not that that's a bad thing. I love my HX9Vs!
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #62 on: February 29, 2012, 07:14:12 AM »
I'll see your HX10V and raise you an HX20V:

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Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX20V Overview

If you're looking for an attractive, coat-pocket friendly camera that sacrifices nothing in terms of zoom reach and resolution, the Sony DSC-HX20V might be the camera for you. And with a body crafted from 99% recycled materials, it's probably better for the environment than many, too, giving you a sense of doing the right thing for the planet.

The Sony HX20V is based around a powerful 20x optical zoom lens that protrudes telescope-like from the front of its chunky body. The HX20V's lens bears Sony G branding, and when shooting still images in its native 4:3 aspect ratio, yields 35mm-equivalent focal lengths from a generous 25mm wide angle to a powerful 500mm telephoto. Maximum aperture falls from f/3.2 at wide angle to a rather dim f/5.8 at telephoto. Thankfully, the HX20V includes Sony's Optical Steadyshot image stabilization, to help fight blur from camera shake at the longer focal lengths.

Sony describes the HX20V's autofocus system as "lightning-fast", claiming a focus time of just 0.13 seconds in daylight, and 0.21 seconds in low ambient light of around 3 EV.

The HX20V's backside-illuminated CMOS image sensor has uncommonly high resolution, capable of capturing 18.2 megapixel still images. That's a higher resolution than many recent SLRs, although the sensor itself is a 1/2.3-inch type with a diagonal of just 7.77 millimeters. Since it's a backside-illuminated image sensor, light gathering should be better than that of a standard CMOS chip. That's because more of the surface area can be devoted to light-gathering, as the circuitry has been moved below the active layer of the sensor. Sony has selected a still-image sensitivity range of ISO 100 to 12,800 equivalents, although it's not clear if that is at full or reduced resolution. For movie shooting, the range is a much narrower 100 to 1,000 equivalents, with the ability to extend to ISO 2,000 maximum.

Images can be framed and reviewed on a 3.0-inch LCD panel with high 921,600 dot resolution, or around 640 x 480 pixels, with each pixel being comprised of separate red, green, and blue dots. There's no optical or electronic viewfinder on the HX20V.

As well as still imaging, the HX20V can also capture high-def 1080p (aka Full HD; 1,920 x 1,080 pixels) AVCHD video at a rate of 60 progressive-scan frames per second, or 60 interlaced fields per second, and movies include stereo audio. There are also three reduced-resolution options: either high-def 1,440 x 1,080 pixel that plays back at 16:9 aspect ratio, but with reduced resolution on the x-axis, high-def 720p (1,280 x 720 pixel) or standard-def VGA (640 x 480 pixel). The 1,440 x 1,080 pixel mode is available at 60 fields per second in AVCHD format, or 30 frames per second in MPEG-4. The other reduced-res modes are all MPEG-4 only, and are captured at 30 frames per second. Two different stabilization systems are available for video: either the standard Optical SteadyShot used for still imaging, or a more powerful Active SteadyShot mode that combines optical and digital stabilization, with a resulting increase in the focal length crop. (Translation: wide-angle video is harder to achieve with this enabled, but you can manage an even greater maximum telephoto.)

Interestingly, the HX20V can save 13 megapixel still images during movie capture, without interrupting the video feed. This is achieved using Sony's "By Pixel Super Resolution" technology, a variant of digital zoom that uses both interpolation and pattern-matching to resample the low-res video frame to a much higher resolution.

Catering to fans of travel, the Sony HX20V includes a built-in GPS receiver. This allows photos and movies to be tagged with the capture location and bearing. The HX20V also allows GPS track logs to be recorded, so you can replay your route on a given day's shooting.

The Sony HX20V includes both USB 2.0 High Speed data and Mini HDMI high-def video connectivity. Images and movies are stored in 105MB of built-in memory, or on SD / Memory Stick Duo cards. Supported SD cards include SDHC and SDXC types, while Memory Stick Duo compatibility includes PRO Duo and PRO HG Duo types, as well as Micro and Micro Mark 2 cards with an adapter. Power comes courtesy of a proprietary NP-BG1 or NP-FG1 lithium ion rechargeable battery pack, with the former in the product bundle. The HX20V is rated as good for 320 shots on a charge, although it isn't stated with which pack type this figure was determined.

Available from May 2012, the Sony HX20V is priced at around US$400. The only body color for this model is black.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2012, 06:06:09 AM »
Doesn't look like much has changed. Not that that's a bad thing. I love my HX9Vs!

more zoom, better stabilization, bigger sensor....its a nice upgrade
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2012, 11:30:37 AM »
Doesn't look like much has changed. Not that that's a bad thing. I love my HX9Vs!

more zoom, better stabilization, bigger sensor....its a nice upgrade

I was talking about the HX10V vs. the HX9V. Didn't see the HX20V before.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2012, 01:18:48 PM »
I just ordered a HX9V today, price was too good to skip, 255 euro, instead of the whooping 419 euro for the HX20V.

Coming from a ZS3 / TZ7 Panasonic I'm looking forward to the increased video quality but also very afraid of the audio distortion. I've recorded quite a few shows, with audio which were at times excellent and some less good on the Panasonic and am ready to be disappointed by the quality of the audio on the HX9V. I understand I'll probably have to dual record the shows, audio on my R09 and video on the new device. I'm lazy and really don't feel like doin' so :(

Did anyone find a way around recording loud sources being distorted? What about some dead-rat material or foam like stuff to somewhat dampen the boom and oomph? Likely they are the reason for distortion? Or maybe even cover half of the mic holes on the top to lessen sound pressure?

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2012, 02:18:44 PM »
I too went from a ZS3 to a HX9V and thought the audio would be a bigger deal (worse, more distortion)...while it's not as good as the ZS3, it's not that bad.

This was blazingly loud.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2012, 06:53:02 PM »
Dont rely solely on the hx9v for audio or you will be very dissapointed for sure.especially if you are filming near the pa.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2012, 09:08:05 AM »
I filmed Jane's Addiction last week and unfortunately had to rely on the HX9V's audio. It's really not horrible:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5F94AC408349B6F9
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #69 on: March 18, 2012, 02:07:12 AM »
I filmed Jane's Addiction last week and unfortunately had to rely on the HX9V's audio. It's really not horrible:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5F94AC408349B6F9

What camera settings did you use?  Looks like there wasn't a spotlight (at least from the front) and footage is kind of dark at times.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2012, 11:39:26 AM »
I filmed Jane's Addiction last week and unfortunately had to rely on the HX9V's audio. It's really not horrible:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5F94AC408349B6F9

What camera settings did you use?  Looks like there wasn't a spotlight (at least from the front) and footage is kind of dark at times.

Twilight scene mode.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2012, 03:05:37 PM »
How is the HX9v when it comes to regular concert photography?  There isn't much in the way for manual settings, is there?
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #72 on: June 15, 2012, 06:06:54 PM »
Do any of the "post HX9V" Sony's have a better (smoother) zoom? That is one thing that bugs me about the HX9V.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2012, 12:38:40 AM »
Do any of the "post HX9V" Sony's have a better (smoother) zoom? That is one thing that bugs me about the HX9V.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #74 on: July 31, 2012, 02:16:31 PM »
How is the HX9v when it comes to regular concert photography?  There isn't much in the way for manual settings, is there?

Old post, but I've had some pretty good results with it.





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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #75 on: October 05, 2012, 01:46:11 AM »
Bought an HX10V last week and went to see Garbage in concert last weekend.  Here's a video I shot with the camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeHvDFwVRbs

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The camera did a decent job, but I don't like the fact you can't make minor adjustments to the exposure after you've hit record. Faces get blown out by spotlights if you guess the exposure wrong before hitting record. With the Canon cameras I've owned, you could adjust on the fly. 
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2012, 04:34:32 PM »
Bought an HX10V last week and went to see Garbage in concert last weekend.  Here's a video I shot with the camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeHvDFwVRbs

Audio was recorded with my CA-11s/Edirol R-09HR

The camera did a decent job, but I don't like the fact you can't make minor adjustments to the exposure after you've hit record. Faces get blown out by spotlights if you guess the exposure wrong before hitting record. With the Canon cameras I've owned, you could adjust on the fly.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #77 on: December 10, 2012, 09:13:57 AM »
Hi all !

I'm using the HX9V for 6 months now  but I have several questions on it and on its successors :

- is it possible to set the exposure and that it remains how we've set it when we put the hx9v off ? I hate to have to put again EV -1.7 everytime I put it on again, because I often forget to do it !! and if yes please how ???
- Is there a way to avoid the zoom problem, I mean the fact that at the end of a zoom we lost the focus for an half-second ?
- Are the other versions better in this ? particularly the hx20v ? is the global focus better ? because when stroboscopic lights the hx9v can't keep a sharp image and it's VERY disturbing !

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #78 on: December 10, 2012, 03:29:28 PM »
The problems you state didn't change in the HX10V if my camera's any indication. the EV settings always revert back to zero when I shut the camera off and turn it back on.
The zoom also loses a bit of focus towards the end of the zoom range. I'm assuming it's because the camera's making a switch between the outer barrel extension to the inner one.

On the plus side I used my HX10V at Paul McCartney and Bruce Springsteen a couple weeks ago with great results.

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #79 on: December 10, 2012, 08:05:43 PM »
- is it possible to set the exposure and that it remains how we've set it when we put the hx9v off ? I hate to have to put again EV -1.7 every time I put it on again, because I often forget to do it !! and if yes please how ???


I am at work and don't have my camera handy . . . so I'm going on memory . . . and might not remember this correctly.  But for the Sony HX9V, the default is either the “Superior Auto” mode (the gold camera icon on the setting dial) or “Intelligent Auto” mode (the green camera on the setting dial). In both of those modes – the brightness will reset to the default setting of “0 EV” when you shut off the camera.  To stop it from resetting when you shut the camera off - use the “Program Auto” mode (the “P” on the setting dial – right next to the “Superior Auto” mode). The camera stays at whatever settings you use in this mode – even after shutting the camera off and turning it back on.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #80 on: December 11, 2012, 09:11:39 AM »
it works, many thanx guitard, one less problem :)

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #81 on: December 11, 2012, 01:01:10 PM »
Nice! And it stays when you switch the battery even. Learned something new. 
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #82 on: December 11, 2012, 04:00:33 PM »
Anyone using the HX20V regularly?  I bought a 9V in May, but would have bought the 20V if it were not so pricey.  I think it has come down some since.  From the specs it looked like a significant improvement over the 9V.  Just checking in to see if anyone who uses the 20V can discuss.  Thanks!  (oh and THANK YOU guitard for the useful info about keeping the settings with the 9V :-) 
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #83 on: December 11, 2012, 05:19:15 PM »
Anyone using the HX20V regularly?  I bought a 9V in May, but would have bought the 20V if it were not so pricey.  I think it has come down some since.  From the specs it looked like a significant improvement over the 9V.  Just checking in to see if anyone who uses the 20V can discuss.  Thanks!  (oh and THANK YOU guitard for the useful info about keeping the settings with the 9V :-)

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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #84 on: December 11, 2012, 07:33:12 PM »
Look at some of my comments & clips.....

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Anyone using the HX20V regularly?  I bought a 9V in May, but would have bought the 20V if it were not so pricey.  I think it has come down some since.  From the specs it looked like a significant improvement over the 9V.  Just checking in to see if anyone who uses the 20V can discuss.  Thanks!  (oh and THANK YOU guitard for the useful info about keeping the settings with the 9V :-)
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #85 on: December 11, 2012, 08:58:45 PM »
Nice! And it stays when you switch the battery even. Learned something new.

I think we've all fumbled around in the dark trying to quickly change out a battery and forgot to re-set the exposure before starting to film again . . . and then started cussing when we saw the over-exposed picture in the LED screen and realized what we had just done wrong.
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Re: Sony DSC HX9V 16x.
« Reply #86 on: January 09, 2013, 07:09:38 PM »
Anyone using the HX20V regularly?  I bought a 9V in May, but would have bought the 20V if it were not so pricey.  I think it has come down some since.  From the specs it looked like a significant improvement over the 9V.  Just checking in to see if anyone who uses the 20V can discuss.  Thanks!  (oh and THANK YOU guitard for the useful info about keeping the settings with the 9V :-)

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