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Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« on: May 20, 2018, 09:41:06 AM »
I will soon purchase a pair of Schoeps MK41 verticals with active cables. In which direction should I put them in a DINa/ORTF configuration? Does it really matter?

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« Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 10:35:43 AM by TheMetalist »
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2018, 10:24:09 AM »
Second picture is correct, except the red dots point at
the sound source, not up at the ceiling
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2018, 10:38:17 AM »
Second picture is correct

Thank you.

except the red dots point at
the sound source, not up at the ceiling

Changed it now. :)
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2018, 10:49:45 AM »

There is nothing wrong with using the strategy in the second picture, but the more standard usage (to me at least) is place them upright on a horizontal bar. The red dots are then oriented based on what pattern you are using...

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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2018, 10:51:45 AM »

There is nothing wrong with using the strategy in the second picture, but the more standard usage (to me at least) is place them upright on a horizontal bar. The red dots are then oriented based on what pattern you are using...

https://www.shapeways.com/product/YE635ELWF/din-schoeps-actives-vertical-capsules?optionId=61777746

Ok. Thanks. Unfortunately it's not possible for me as I'm only doing stealth jobs. I should have mentioned that.
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2018, 12:55:30 PM »
If I put the capsules like picture 1. How will that affect the stereo image?
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2018, 04:11:22 PM »
If I put the capsules like picture 1. How will that affect the stereo image?

All the questions in the world won't tell you much about how things sound
until you go out in the field and try it yourself. I have been running vertical caps in a hat for
a long time and use the second picture setup.

sample
https://soundcloud.com/edtyre/tedeshi-trucks-band-2016-10-01mk6edtyre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRCdQgP9RgQ&t=0s&list=PLm9VWtRHsBE4AHCP-duig-gQMQ6-9vu3k&index=2
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2018, 04:32:43 PM »
If I put the capsules like picture 1. How will that affect the stereo image?

All the questions in the world won't tell you much about how things sound
until you go out in the field and try it yourself. I have been running vertical caps in a hat for
a long time and use the second picture setup.

sample
https://soundcloud.com/edtyre/tedeshi-trucks-band-2016-10-01mk6edtyre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRCdQgP9RgQ&t=0s&list=PLm9VWtRHsBE4AHCP-duig-gQMQ6-9vu3k&index=2

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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2018, 04:33:58 PM »
All the questions in the world won't tell you much about how things sound
until you go out in the field and try it yourself. I have been running vertical caps in a hat for
a long time and use the second picture setup.

Yes, but it's also nice to know some things in advance to avoid the worst rookie mistakes. If picture one is a huge NO! NO! then it will save some time if being told so. I'm also curious how these verticals are actually built. I want to understand how they work.

I will order a matched pair these week and I'll hopefully be ready to use them in 5 or 6 weeks when they arrive. Also waiting for my new Nbob actives. I so freakin' excited about this. Feels like forever. :D

Nice sample! Sounds great.  :cheers:
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2018, 07:51:55 PM »
All the questions in the world won't tell you much about how things sound
until you go out in the field and try it yourself. I have been running vertical caps in a hat for
a long time and use the second picture setup.

Yes, but it's also nice to know some things in advance to avoid the worst rookie mistakes. If picture one is a huge NO! NO! then it will save some time if being told so. I'm also curious how these verticals are actually built. I want to understand how they work.

I will order a matched pair these week and I'll hopefully be ready to use them in 5 or 6 weeks when they arrive. Also waiting for my new Nbob actives. I so freakin' excited about this. Feels like forever. :D

Nice sample! Sounds great.  :cheers:

Welcome to the team.  You will enjoy them immensely. 

I would take Ed's advice.  He has run these for awhile and has lots of samples out there that are stellar.  Since I don't run V's I can't offer useful advice.

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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2018, 11:23:22 PM »
holla before you buy

i might be selling my literally unused 2-year old matched pair soon

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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2018, 02:58:51 AM »
Welcome to the team.  You will enjoy them immensely. 

I would take Ed's advice.  He has run these for awhile and has lots of samples out there that are stellar.  Since I don't run V's I can't offer useful advice.

Thank you! I'm sure I will. Now I have to save for a pair of MK4V's as well.

His recordings are great and I sure appreciate his input. I also received a nice pm. :)
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2018, 04:45:48 AM »
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2018, 06:10:56 AM »
Welcome to Team Schoeps!

Thank you, Tim!  8) :guitarist:
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Re: Schoeps MK41V - In which direction should I put them?
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2018, 07:43:11 AM »
I have now ordered Nbob active cables from Nick and a pair of matched MK41V's from the official Swedish Schoeps reseller. Can't wait!

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