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Von Schweikert Repair?
« on: June 04, 2018, 01:01:13 PM »
Well, my wife was away so the stereo was cranking this weekend.  I messed up one of my Von Schweikert VR-4jr's playing a Matisyahu show I recorded back in November.

Anyone have any insight on repair?  I really don't want to empty lead, or ship. 

I am also in the market to have the veneer redone as they came kind of beat up when I bought them.  I imagine that I can have this done anywhere?

Thanks for any insight.


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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2018, 03:08:57 PM »
Usually the speaker manufacturer will send you a replacement driver and you can replace it yourself. Also, it probably is an OEM, that you can buy from the manufacturer off the shelf, obtain cheaper and, again, replace yourself.

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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2018, 04:25:22 PM »
Usually the speaker manufacturer will send you a replacement driver and you can replace it yourself. Also, it probably is an OEM, that you can buy from the manufacturer off the shelf, obtain cheaper and, again, replace yourself.

I pulled it out last night as I know the "upgrades" are made by scanspeak in Denmark.  (Not cheaply I might add).  The driver was completely unlabeled other than a VSA and a serial number on the sticker.  I'll call VSA today.
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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2018, 05:09:09 PM »
So I called VSA and spoke to Leif.  He wants me to ship him all four bass module drivers.  They cost $250 each to replace and they don't have very many left as the VR 4JR was discontinued in 2005.  I told him how much I paid for mine pair and the only thing he said was "You have to be shitting me!"

I am going though a troubleshooting process tonight.  I am going to pull the offending left, lower driver and swap it out with one of the good ones from the right side.  I need to make sure that it isn't just a errant piece of lead shot or something.



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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2018, 09:06:14 PM »

I need to make sure that it isn't just a errant piece of lead shot or something.


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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2018, 12:15:27 AM »
I swapped the offending driver with the lower one in the other bass cabinet and the rattle followed.  VSA is sending me a replacement. Not cheap, but I also only paid $1500 for these in the 1st place.  I'm still ahead.
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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2018, 07:56:04 AM »
I swapped the offending driver with the lower one in the other bass cabinet and the rattle followed.  VSA is sending me a replacement. Not cheap, but I also only paid $1500 for these in the 1st place.  I'm still ahead.

no wonder he couldnt believe what you paid. damn. i think my vr2s were a little less than that
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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2018, 09:37:49 AM »
if it's not too late, I have a pair of 8" drivers from my old VR4's.    I have no use for them.   I dont even recall why I had to replace them in the first place.   But I do know they work.   Happy to set you up.

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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2018, 10:15:22 AM »
Thanks NIck but the Jr's only fit 7". 
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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2018, 10:32:12 PM »
You can also have the speaker re-coned, when replacements are no longer become available.

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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2018, 10:19:30 AM »
VS also does a full upgrade that isn't cheap ($4k) where they basically upgrade all electrical components to current technology.  I have that in my pocket as a plan if my Jrs ever have an issue.  A buddy got his done and was floored by the difference.

And yes, you got a steal.  I got mine for $2300 a couple of years ago and thought I robbed the guy I bought them from.

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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2018, 04:48:22 PM »
You can also have the speaker re-coned, when replacements are no longer become available.

No reconing as parts are no longer available according to VS.  they only have a few drivers left.  It basically cost me $300 to replace one bass driver.

If I was gonna drop 4k+ I would've bought the endeavors he offered me for $5k.  They are brand new and retail at$8k
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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2018, 06:51:26 PM »
Keith,

Reconing is something that many third parties do. You do not have to use the actual manufacturer. As a matter of fact I would think that 99.99% of speaker manufacturers do not recone. They simply send you a replacement. Further, 90% do not make their own drivers and do not have the skills or ability to recone.

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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2018, 07:13:07 PM »
Keith,

The voice coil can be rewound by most folks who recone. You keep asking VS and they are the wrong folks to ask. The beauty of a using a third party is that they do not need parts. They have the skills and tool to do it. Try speakerexchange.

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Re: Von Schweikert Repair?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2018, 07:23:32 PM »
Thank you Ray!
Mics: Schoeps MK5 G MP, Schoeps CCM 4 Lg MP, Schoeps MK8 MP, nBob cables > PFA, KCY 250/5 > PFA
Pre/A>D/P48: Sonosax SX/M2, Sonosax SX/M2-LS, E.A.A. PSP-2, Naiant Tinybox, Neumann BS48i-2 (for sale)
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Playback: McIntosh MC 2105 > McIntosh MX 130 > Von Schweikert VR-4 JR
http://archive.org/bookmarks/kskreider

 

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