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Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« on: April 19, 2008, 08:22:11 PM »
What is the best cable for stereo (Rode NT4 etc). I want to run from a single 5 pin XLR via a single sheathed cable and terminated at two 3 pin XLR's at the recorder.

Also, what is the best (read neatist) way to terminate from a single cable into two 3 pin XLRs without it looking like a cable that has been stuck together with tape.
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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2008, 09:19:54 PM »
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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2008, 06:25:16 AM »
What is the best cable for stereo (Rode NT4 etc). I want to run from a single 5 pin XLR via a single sheathed cable and terminated at two 3 pin XLR's at the recorder.

Also, what is the best (read neatist) way to terminate from a single cable into two 3 pin XLRs without it looking like a cable that has been stuck together with tape.

I've also supplied this to customers with custom lengths and option for low profile dual R/A Neutrik XLRs.

See standard offerings at: http://www.sonicstudios.com/access.htm#adapters
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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2008, 08:01:07 AM »
I'm specifically after a cable for DIY  ::)

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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2008, 08:52:28 AM »
buy some 4 conductor plus a shield cable and build it yourself...it's easy enough.
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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2008, 10:53:33 AM »
Also Remote Audio has several flavors of these types of cables. Coffey Sound in LA, or Trew Audio in Nashville, TN can help you out.

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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2008, 07:21:42 PM »
ANY USB cable has 4 usable wires + shield, so hack off the connectors and use the cable for wiring the connector going into the MIC.  Run the other end of this USB cord into your first XLR-3M and use the connector body as a junction box to connect the wires going out of this connector to your second XLR-3M plug for the other channel.
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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2008, 06:16:14 AM »
complete DIY instructions.

1.  buy XLRs. 
2.  acquire two lengths of cable.  normal 2 conductor shielded, whatever gauge you prefer.
3.  get some of that "flexopet" techflex like I sent you in email off list.
4.  shrink tube (1/4")

run (both) wires up through the techflex.  leave a foot or so as the Y at the end.  heatshrink it so that the techflex holds in place.
twist the shielding together from both wires to form the grounding lead.  solder them together. 
Assemble  like so:
5pin
1+ right
2- right
3 Ground
4+ Left
5- Left

Know which is which at the "Y" end (mark them ahead of time or ping them w/a multi-meter for continuity).

viola!
:)
or even better...just buy the sweet one I have in stock.
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happy soldering.
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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2008, 11:57:36 PM »
complete DIY instructions.

1.  buy XLRs. 
2.  acquire two lengths of cable.  normal 2 conductor shielded, whatever gauge you prefer.
3.  get some of that "flexopet" techflex like I sent you in email off list.
4.  shrink tube (1/4")

run (both) wires up through the techflex.  leave a foot or so as the Y at the end.  heatshrink it so that the techflex holds in place.
twist the shielding together from both wires to form the grounding lead.  solder them together. 
Assemble  like so:
5pin
1+ right
2- right
3 Ground
4+ Left
5- Left

Know which is which at the "Y" end (mark them ahead of time or ping them w/a multi-meter for continuity).

viola!
:)
or even better...just buy the sweet one I have in stock.
:P

happy soldering.

That is NOT the pinout for the NT4 cable. I know this because I just built a cable for my NT4. I took some pictures and the "DIY Guide" that contains them (and some notes on the assembly) is here: http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,109843.0.html. Anyway; for future reference, the actual NT4 pinout is as follows:

Pin 1: Ground (same as the rest of the connectors)
Pin 2: Left Pin 2
Pin 3: Left Pin 3
Pin 4: Right Pin 2
Pin 5: Right Pin 3
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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2008, 07:18:01 AM »
that is the other method (the scheops way).  with pin 1 being ground.

the one I mentioned above is the Shure standard, and is 90% of all 5 pin stereo pin-outs.  Figures Rhode would be different.

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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2008, 07:57:09 AM »
Nevaton stereo cables follow the "Schoeps" pinout configuration as well.
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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2008, 04:15:22 PM »
The international standard for 5-pin XLR-s is pin 1 as ground.
This goes for all sizes (3 or 5 included)
The connector is made to connect pin 1 first.

Anything else is non-standard. Beware.

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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2008, 08:44:44 PM »
all, but Sure, Studio Projects and Peluso any way.

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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2009, 02:34:55 PM »
I just got pointed to this thread by someone looking for a 5pin cable.  I'm with Gunnar and Jacob, the std way seems to be using pin 1 to ground.

I don't know about Studio Projects and Peluso, but Shure doesn't use the pinout Nick suggested either, according to the VP88 user manual anyway:

http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_vp88_ug

Edit: the pin 1>gnd method is also what was used for my Pearl MSH-10.
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Re: Stereo Mic Cable - one 5 pin XLR to two 3 pin XLR's
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2009, 03:45:21 PM »
This is what is used for the Schoeps VST62Iu

XLR-5
as seen from the pin side

Pin 1: GND
Pin 2: +Phase channel I
Pin 3: –Phase channel I
Pin 4: +Phase channel II
Pin 5: –Phase channel II



edit: this info is mostly redundant b/c i didn't read the full thread.

schoeps link: http://schoeps.de/E-2004/xlr.html

link fixed:  http://web.archive.org/web/20080527041819/http://www.schoeps.de/E-2004/xlr.html
« Last Edit: July 14, 2010, 07:38:07 PM by fozzy »
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