Topic: Split omnis???

[Wes]

whats a J-disk?

[Swampy]

Mike, in the future I deffinatly will look into the J disc, but I don't think I'll be able to swing it in the next few hours. Thanks for your help!

[Swampy]

whats a J-disk?

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=800

[Swampy]

Sorry..........
Didn't realize that this was such a short term need.
+T and good luck.

I'm shutting up now.......

dOOd, there is nothing to be sorry about, you've been VERY helpful!!!!!!!!! T+

[wbrisette]

Alright, so here is what I think Im gonna do, tell me if I have this right: 2 omnis 4 feet apart at about 7 feet high, slightly pointed towards stacks. Does this sound good? THANKS!

I found 4 feet to leave a little too much opening in my recordings, so I brought that down to 1 metre (about 3 feet).

Wayne

[nickgregory]

I am listening through Jamie Lykos' ABB from GOTV right now and it is a 3' spread, and it sounds  nice.  There are a couple of very slight phasing issues (must have been a bit windy), but nothing bad...just where the lower end gets a little muddy for a brief second...but it sounds great.  3' may be a good place to start.

[Swampy]

THANKS for the suggestions! I didn't get to try it last night because it was waaaaaay to rainy and I didn't want to have 2 stands with umbrellas on them blocking everybody's view, so I just flew my regular mics. Maybe I'll try omnis next month at the free Rusted Root/Jazz Mandolin show.

[wbrisette]

Have you considered running one stand? I use one stand with a horizontal bar I built to place 4 mics on a single stand. See:
http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/stand/homebrew.html.

This same process can be used for just two mics. You might want to consider this.

Wayne

[Swampy]

GREAT GREAT IDEA man, off to the hardware store If I can get this to work outdoors then I will me mucho happy, T+ for the site!

[Tim]

try the Healy method (go to the Oade site) if you want to run on one stand. I'll get my Phish KC tapes out this week that were done this way.

[Swampy]

try the Healy method (go to the Oade site) if you want to run on one stand. I'll get my Phish KC tapes out this week that were done this way.

So this is basicly like how your ears would be right?

[Swampy]

anyone? ^^^

[Lee]

yep.......sort of..... Your ears are baffled by your head though.

some of us more than others...

[Chuck]

Alex:

I made a spacer that holds both mics on one stand and separates them 26-28". I've had good results with that spacing outdoors pointing the mics at the outside of the PA stacks. I've got a good dead2003-07-06 recording I could send. No hole in the middle. Just that nice accurate omni sound. Believe it or not, the separation between the channels is good. Of course it isn't as good as cardioids run ORTF or DIN, but to me it sounds very natural.

[plucks]

One thing to watch out for with omni's is loosing the phantom middle section.  Often the vocals are sent to the middle of the sound field, while the instruments are spread throughout.  If the mics are spread too far for the type of venue, you can loose the middle and have a lot of separation...this can sometimes leave the tapes sounding a little thin compared to what you are used to hearing with hypers/cards.  

2-3 foot spread is commonly a good spacing, however, more can lead to just as good if not better results if angled properly.

Phil