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Title: Help with an AD1000
Post by: Kevin on November 04, 2003, 04:21:15 PM
My buddy Hampton is fooling around with an ad1k and needs some help
           
I seem to be having problems with an ad1000!  I am running
km184 into the ad1000 and the unit is picking up music from
the mics and processing it, but it is having problems sending
it to my deck.  I keep receiving "no input" on my
deck and have tried everything to correct but to no avail.
My 7 pin and digi-cables both work fine, but I am afraid that
there may be a problem with the 12 pin (hopefully not) or
something internal. If it is the problem, are ther any quick
fixes.  I have heard that the ad1000 sometimes has problems
"locking" onto the deck which would create the no
input.  Any help in fixing the problem would be very
appeciated!

-Hampton  
hwest1013@yahoo.com  
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: cpclark on November 04, 2003, 05:06:54 PM
these units are known for word clock and crystal issues, lets hope thats not it, or you might be SOL b/c i dont think apogee services them anymore, im praying that my ad500e will give me at least 6 months more, its workin good for now, hope you work everyhing out, more people will chime in here
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Kevin on November 04, 2003, 05:40:26 PM
we figured out that its a coax problem in the 12 pin, one of the two wires is unsoldered.  Does it matter which connnection you solder the coax onto the 12pin(the 12pin has a bunch of joints are there a specific 2 or will it work no matter which one you solder it 2)
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Tim on November 04, 2003, 06:30:31 PM
just an fyi - if it's a word clock issue the sample rate light on the front will scroll and not lock
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Mic D on November 04, 2003, 09:43:17 PM
these units are known for word clock and crystal issues, lets hope thats not it, or you might be SOL b/c i dont think apogee services them anymore

THEY STILL SERVICE THEM!
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Kevin on November 04, 2003, 10:28:22 PM
ok the problem is definately the coax out of the 12 pin.  Anyone have some desoldering tips? its a pain!!
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: cpclark on November 04, 2003, 11:52:16 PM
thanks for letting me know what happens when theres a problem, now i know what to look for, but lets hope my ad500e stays alive for awhile, the sound is awesom
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Kevin on November 05, 2003, 12:01:53 AM
just make sure to check the soldered connection on your 12 pin!!
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Tim on November 05, 2003, 11:17:51 AM
I loved my ad500e... I actually wish I could come up with a little extra scratch to buy an ad1000 to keep around!
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: dmonterisi on November 05, 2003, 11:59:37 AM
I loved my ad500e... I actually wish I could come up with a little extra scratch to buy an ad1000 to keep around!

apogee whore!  how much apogee clothing do you own?
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Tim on November 05, 2003, 12:03:39 PM
actually none... but I do own:

2 schoeps shirts, with the schoeps logo on the left breast and "Life is Full of Important Choices" over the logo, on the back are all of the schoeps caps and a big schoeps logo

2 neumann t-shirts and a neumann polo

I think that's it...

oh and Damon, don't hate the playa... hate the game... It's not my fault your a/d sounds like McConnell's guitar.. thin and bright.
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: dmonterisi on November 05, 2003, 12:14:12 PM
and don't blame me that your pre/ad sounds like week old coffee, thick dark and muddy.
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Tim on November 05, 2003, 12:37:22 PM
I can't wait until we meet face to face...

need a clerk this summer?
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: dmonterisi on November 05, 2003, 12:41:49 PM
i think we finished our hiring for next summer already...you looking at moving east?  
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Tim on November 05, 2003, 12:43:31 PM
no, I'm staying out here...

already? that seems early... you east coasters, always ahead of the rest of the country.

Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Kevin on November 05, 2003, 06:35:11 PM
ok so we bought a new 12 pin and I soldered the power cables on and we have power :) but we cant seem to get a signal out of the coax.  The 12 pin we bought is blue unlike the one we replaced which was black (im refering to the back where the solder joints are).  Anyone know which joints we need to connect the coax to?
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Lee on November 05, 2003, 06:36:03 PM
I'm pretty sure the pinout is in the manual, which is on apogee's website.

If I have a chance I'll open mine up tonight and look at it.
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Kevin on November 05, 2003, 06:37:45 PM
preciate lee but we need to finish this project pretty soon for galactic tonight so im going to check out the apogee site, if we dont get it done for some reason I might ask you to check yours if you dont mind :)
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Lee on November 05, 2003, 06:40:09 PM
if I can find a tiny screwdriver I'll open it up right now... lemme look
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Lee on November 05, 2003, 06:46:59 PM
Good thing I opened mine up, it's got a wicked cold solder joint on the S/PDIF out!

On mine (granted it's an AD500 but I'm assuming the 15 pins are the same), the S/PDIF is on pins 1 and 6, with the shield on pin 6 and the center connector on pin 1.

Power is red 15, black 14.

Hope this helps.

-JLW
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Kevin on November 05, 2003, 06:48:16 PM
SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My first successful solder and a dam good job too!!!! WOOHOOO!! Preciate the help fellas ;) +T to all :)
I feel like making some cables now....hummm...
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Lee on November 05, 2003, 06:50:14 PM
glad to hear it... I'm thinking I might add another S/PDIF out to mine when I repair this solder joint.  I guess I can just run 2 cables off the same pins... anyone see a problem with that?
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: utahtaper on November 05, 2003, 09:12:42 PM
I always cringe at splitting a digital signal. It's not the same as an analog signal. I only do it as a last resort. Hey Kevin, glad you got it working.
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Kevin on November 06, 2003, 08:50:52 AM
Preciate it ;)
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Lee on November 06, 2003, 10:42:27 AM
I always cringe at splitting a digital signal. It's not the same as an analog signal. I only do it as a last resort. Hey Kevin, glad you got it working.

I figure something done at the 15 pin connector would be more stable than a ratshack inline splitter, but I dunno.

I just hate running the sony portables behind decks I don't know how to work (read: DA-P1) and it'd be nice to have 2 chains.
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Tim on November 06, 2003, 03:39:29 PM
my 15pin cable had two spdif/rca outs on it when I bought it
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Lee on November 06, 2003, 09:07:26 PM
you mind cracking it open and seeing how they're wired?  I'm giving you a +T in advance...
Title: Re:Help with an AD1000
Post by: Tim on November 07, 2003, 07:58:35 PM
I don't have it anymore, sorry!