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how to solder dpa 4061
« on: February 17, 2005, 03:34:47 PM »
hi i want to know if there is a guide on how to solder a mini stereo 1/8 plug onto a 4061. or any pictures. i intend on using them with my sound professionals BB

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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2005, 05:30:31 PM »
conceptually,it's really easy.  IN practice,it sucks cause the wires are so small.  if you strip back the wires on the mic, you want the active wire to the R or L post in the plug, and the sheild wire to the sheild post.  On the other mic, solder the active wire to the other post you didn't use (R or L) and sheild wires to the same sheild post as the other mic is soldered to.

at this stage, you can gently test it out.  if you get it working, secure your connections with silicone.

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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2005, 05:33:48 PM »
right mic + > ring
left mic + > tip
shield for both mics > sleeve

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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2005, 05:38:21 PM »
right mic + > ring
left mic + > tip
shield for both mics > sleeve

yeah.  what he said!   ;)   

I don't know if you've cut the mic cable open yet, but its really pretty self-evident when you see what's inside.  I was worried at first too, but its clear when you see it.
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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2005, 02:21:34 PM »
next logical progression of this thread:

so is anyone offering up their services for this kind  of work?

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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2005, 02:23:38 PM »
so let see some photos of this project!
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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2005, 08:13:45 AM »
I can post a pic of mine when I get home- its very small though- not sure how much detail I'll be able to show.
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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2005, 11:51:02 AM »
ok, instead of soldering directly to the mini plug cant you just buy a stereo plug with cables connected snip off the lemo and solder the wires together. tia

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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2005, 12:59:26 PM »
ok, instead of soldering directly to the mini plug cant you just buy a stereo plug with cables connected snip off the lemo and solder the wires together. tia

yeah, just make sure its stereo.  I made that mistake too.  The thing there is that you have 2 solder joints outside the plug, which are going to require a bit of special care while using.
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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2005, 10:28:04 PM »
How fragile will it make the cords? 

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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2005, 01:09:38 AM »
as long as you do a good job with the soldering, i don't think it'll make the cords fragile at all.


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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2005, 12:31:45 AM »
Anyone available to do it?  I don't trust myself to do it, I would rather pay someone with experience to do it.

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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2005, 02:45:04 AM »
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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2005, 03:13:23 AM »
marc is hella backed up, hasn't even posted in a couple months.  any electronics professional will be able to do this shit and most cities have some guy with a small shop who does custom shit.  actually any electrician should be capable even.
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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2005, 03:30:09 AM »
I took mine to a local electronic repair place, and they did it, but he told me not to refer anyone else there with that project...  8)
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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2005, 03:48:01 AM »
i had a coworker do mine for $10.  He said it was really easy asside from how small the wire are.  He actually hot glued the shit outta the connection after se soldered it to give it even more strength, haven't had any trouble yet. ;D
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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2005, 04:53:57 PM »
Soldering is a method of joining metal parts using a filler metal of low  (The temperature below which a liquid turns into a solid) melting point ( (An alloy (usually of lead and tin) used when melted to join two metal surfaces) solder). Heat is applied to the metal parts, and the soft filler metal is pressed against the joint, melts, and is drawn into the joint by  (A phenomenon associated with surface tension and resulting in the elevation or depression of liquids in capillaries) capillary action. After the metal cools, the resulting joints are not as strong as the base metal, but have adequate strength, electrical conductivity, and water-tightness for many uses. Soldering is an ancient technique that has been used practically as long as humans have been making articles out of metal.

Soldering can be done in a number of ways, including passing parts over a bulk container of melted solder, using an  (The infrared part of the electromagnetic spectrum; electromagnetic wave frequencies below the visible range) infrared lamp, or by using a point source such as an  (A car that is powered by electricity) electric  (A hand tool with a heatable tip; used to melt and apply solder) soldering iron or  (Click link for more info and facts about brazing) brazing torch. A  (The rate of flow of energy or particles across a given surface) flux is usually used to assist in the joining process. This flux can be manufactured as part of the solder in a so called 'multicore' solder.

One application of soldering is making connections between electronic parts and printed circuit boards. Another is in  (The occupation of a plumber (installing and repairing pipes and fixtures for water or gas or sewage in a building)) plumbing. Joints in sheet-metal objects such as cans for food, roof flashing, and drain gutters were also traditionally soldered. Jewellry and small mechanical parts are often assembled by soldering. Soldering can also be used as a repair techniqe to patch a leak in a container or cooking vessel.

Soldering is distinct from  (Fastening two pieces of metal together by softening with heat and applying pressure) welding in that the base materials to be joined are not melted. The lower melting point solder can be melted away leaving the original materials intact.  Brazing is similar to soldering but uses higher melting temperature alloys, based on copper, as the filler metal.

Since  (A soft heavy toxic malleable metallic element; bluish white when freshly cut but tarnishes readily to dull gray) lead used in traditional solder alloys is toxic, much effort in industry has been directed to adapting soldering techniques to use lead-free alloys for assembly of electronic devices and for potable water supply piping.

Basic electronic soldering techniques
All solder pads and device terminals must be clean for good  (The act of making something wet) wetting. The soldering iron or gun must be clean, otherwise components may heat up excessively. The devices must be mounted on the  (A printed circuit that can be inserted into expansion slots in a computer to increase the computer's capabilities) circuit board properly. One technique is to elevate the components from the board surface (a few millimeters) to prevent heating of circuit board. After device insertion, the excess leads can be cut leaving only a length equal to the radius of the pad. You may use plastic mounting clips or holders for large devices to reduce mounting stresses.

Heat sink the leads of sensitive devices to prevent heat damage. Apply soldering iron or gun to both terminal lead and copper pad to equally heat both. Apply solder to both lead and pad but never directly to the tip of soldering iron or gun. Direct contact will cause the molten solder to flow over the gun and not over the joint. The moment the solder melts and begins to flow, remove the solder supply immediately. Do not remove the iron yet. The remaining solder will then flow over the junction of the lead and pad, assuming both are free of dirt.Let the iron heat the molten solder for a few seconds. This will let the excess flux vaporize. Remove the iron from the junction and let the junction cool.

Be sure not move the joint while it is cooling. Doing so will result in a fractured joint. Do not blow air onto the joint while it is cooling. Instead, let it cool naturally. A good solder joint is smooth and shiny. The lead outline should be clearly visible. Clean the soldering iron tip before you begin on a new joint. It is absolutely important that the iron tip be free of residual flux and solder. After you finish all of the joints, remove excess flux residue from the board using alcohol, acetone, or other organic solvent.

Stained Glass Soldering
Historically soldering tips were copper, placed in braziers. One tip was used, when the heat had transfered from the tip to the solder (and depleted the heat reserve) it was placed back in the brazier of charcoal and the next tip was used.

Currently, electric soldering irons are used, they consist of coil or cermaic heating elements, which retain heat differently, and warm up the mass differently, internal or external rheostats, and different power ratings - which change how long a bead can be run.

Common solders for stained glass are mixtures of tin and lead, respectively:
60/40: melts between 361°-376°F
50/50: melts between 368°-421°F
63/37: melts between 355°-365°F
lead-free solder (useful in jewelry, eating containers, and other environemental uses): melts around 490°F

Pipe/Mechanical Soldering
Sometimes it is necessary to use solders of different melting points in complex jobs.

Soldering defects
Soldering defects are solder joints that are not soldered correctly. These defects may arise when solder temperature is too low. When the solder is too cold, it will not flow and will "ball up". An incorrect solder type (for example, electronics solder for mechanical joints or vice versa) may lead to a weak joint. An incorrect or missing flux can corrode the metals in the joint. Without flux the joint may not be clean. A dirty or contaminated joint usually leads to a weak bond. A lack of solder on a joint will make the joint prone to failure. An excess of solder can create "solder bridges" which create short circuits. Movement of metals being soldered before the solder has cooled will make the solder appear grainy and may occur as a weakened joint.

Soldering defects in elecronics can lead to short circuits, high resistance in the joint, intermittent connections, components overheating, and damaged circuit boards. In mechanical joints defects can lead to joint failure and corrosion.



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Re: how to solder dpa 4061
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2005, 10:39:55 PM »
wow, that was a mouthful.

 

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