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722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« on: August 03, 2005, 11:18:32 AM »
any? compared to v3, adk, mme, mytek, whatever?

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2005, 11:46:44 AM »
I'm just now running the V3 with the 722 for the first time.   I haven't had enough time to make an assessment.  I can throw out some samples if that will help you.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2005, 11:59:34 AM »
I'm also curious.
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2005, 12:00:49 PM »
yeah, to me this is only worth doing if the a/d is a substantial upgrade over a modsbm1.

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2005, 12:03:43 PM »
so I have a hard time comparing in that I went from V3 at 16 bit to 722 at 24 bit....I never had a frame of reference at the 24 bit level for the V3.  So the substantial jump in clarity and resolution I hear may have alot more to do with the extra 8 bits I am hearing...I would definitely be interested in hearing some direct comps of the A/D stage

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2005, 12:09:33 PM »
Doesn't cbd have both a V3 and a 744?  Source 1) 4022> V3 (digital)> 744, Source 2) 4022> V3 (analog)> 744, all at the same time.  Time to put that slacking lawyer to work. ;)
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2005, 12:10:03 PM »
so I have a hard time comparing in that I went from V3 at 16 bit to 722 at 24 bit....I never had a frame of reference at the 24 bit level for the V3.  So the substantial jump in clarity and resolution I hear may have alot more to do with the extra 8 bits I am hearing...I would definitely be interested in hearing some direct comps of the A/D stage

kinda thought that would be tough Nick, almost have to do a v3 versus 722 16 bit comp.

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2005, 12:11:00 PM »
Doesn't cbd have both a V3 and a 744? Source 1) 4022> V3 (digital)> 744, Source 2) 4022> V3 (analog)> 744, all at the same time. Time to put that slacking lawyer to work. ;)

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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2005, 12:12:49 PM »
It's not a wide range of samples, but I have 3 recent shows recorded V3>AES>722 and now two shows V3>line>722 all at 24/96.

I have not burned any DVDs so I have not listened to them on the big system in a way that allows a decent comparison.  General comments are that there is a distinct difference between V3 ADC and 722 ADC but I do not have a preference at this point.   Also,  the use of the V3 as pre-amp really seemed to improve the sound over the 722 preamp alone.   
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2005, 12:44:51 PM »
does anyone really like the 722 as an all in one solution? the more i read on here the more i'm relieved i never bought one. yeah, i know i sound like bean ;)
 

I do.....that being said I have no doubt that a V2 would help the 722 reach its full potential, but to me, the benefit I think I would get would not be enough to convince to me to add another box, interconnects and batteries to my gear bag.  At this point in my taping life, I am tired of carrying a heavy bag, and really enjoy the fact that my bag weighs 10 lbs vs the 30 it used to...would I get a sound improvement though?  I am guessing yes, grace is the best in the business, but I am guessing for me personally it would not be enough to sway me.

edited to add that I dont think this is comparable to a mics->da-p1 scenario...where there was quite a bit of "middleware" that would improve the sound...I think there are very few pieces of gear that could drive an improvement to the sound...the 722 sounds really good to my ears
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2005, 12:51:25 PM »
I thought is sounded quite good, but we really don't have a lot of other 24bit options to compare it to yet. I liked it better with the 148 in the mix. It is all that though. I think I'll buy one as soon I hear the Fr-2 and the flashtracker.
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2005, 12:59:26 PM »
does anyone really like the 722 as an all in one solution?  the more i read on here the more i'm relieved i never bought one.  yeah, i know i sound like bean ;)
 


I really like the sound of my 4022>722 but when I added the v2 back in the mix I found it to be a little more transparent. Personally I like the A/D in this box and I think the v2 helps it out a little. When I need to stealth Ill leave the V2 at home and still have a fabulous 24bit recording. So far an all in one box I guess it’s just what you want to haul around in the field. I don’t mind the extra weight of the V2 and 6v SLA.
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2005, 01:13:54 PM »
Its good a standalone solution, but I just like playing with different gear.  When I want a light load or need to be low profile, I have no reservations using the 722 by itself.
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2005, 01:21:57 PM »
does anyone really like the 722 as an all in one solution? the more i read on here the more i'm relieved i never bought one. yeah, i know i sound like bean ;)
 

i personally like my schoeps>722 recordings a lot. the schoeps seem to be a good match with teh SD as an all-in-1.  The V2 helps tighten the low end makes the highs nice and pristine.  To put in terms of grades......schoeps>722 = A ; schoeps>v2>722 = A+  (to me) ;D
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Re: 722 users....a/d stage opinions?
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2005, 01:56:56 PM »
shoot, seeing nick w/o mg's is like seeing jeter w/o a yankee's uniform :)

yeah, definitely kind of odd for me too...but I am getting used to it :D

 

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