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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2006, 02:06:45 PM »
just don't twist the pairs as you would in a 3 pin xlr

Why not? I don't see how that could cause any harm...

if i am following this thread right (and PLEASE correct me if i am not) the reason is that the mhbo actives use a 4 pin mini xlr.  thus you need each of the four leads to have its own pin.  the 3 pin xlr twist 2 together and use the shield as the 3 pin.

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No you know something.  You are 100% correct, there are 4 pins.
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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2006, 02:26:59 PM »
damnit... i was hoping i was wrong  :P

i had my at853's shortened (and terminated with 3 pin mini's) and was using that as some incentive (as well as my mp-2) to lean towards mhbo 603a's for adding mics to the quiver... the thinking was i would have this crazy amount of 'active' cable for them... oh well...

still can think about the ho's i guess, just no hurry now...  :-\
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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2006, 02:33:46 PM »
if i am following this thread right (and PLEASE correct me if i am not) the reason is that the mhbo actives use a 4 pin mini xlr.  thus you need each of the four leads to have its own pin.  the 3 pin xlr twist 2 together and use the shield as the 3 pin.

That is correct. MBHO uses four distinct leads. But why can't I have two leads twisted? Most 4-lead cables I've seen are produced like that...
In my understanding it *should* work with two leads twisted, but connected to different pins of the mini XLR plug.

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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2006, 03:55:12 PM »
if i am following this thread right (and PLEASE correct me if i am not) the reason is that the mhbo actives use a 4 pin mini xlr.  thus you need each of the four leads to have its own pin.  the 3 pin xlr twist 2 together and use the shield as the 3 pin.

That is correct. MBHO uses four distinct leads. But why can't I have two leads twisted? Most 4-lead cables I've seen are produced like that...
In my understanding it *should* work with two leads twisted, but connected to different pins of the mini XLR plug.

b/c four leads twisted into pair leave only 2 leads.  which would be 2 short in the four pin.  unless you were using cable that had 8 leads inside, i dont see how twisting into pairs would be possible....
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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2006, 05:04:56 PM »
b/c four leads twisted into pair leave only 2 leads.

False. I never said I want to short them together. ;)

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unless you were using cable that had 8 leads inside, i dont see how twisting into pairs would be possible....

Most cables come in twisted pairs as you can see in the following picture:



There are two twisted pairs, each pair consisting of a read and a white wire. The pairs are twisted, yet not shorted together.

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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2006, 06:12:19 PM »
well then i will bite... what are you planing on doing?  i have no clue at all what it could be.
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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2006, 03:17:55 PM »
I now longer steath and was looking for a little beefier cable for my 603A s. I contacted Procables N Sound and they built just what I requested. They are wonderful. If you are still looking and don't have the time to build your own you might want to check them out. The last set of cables I built was in a hotel In Porrtland, ME before a dead show, since then I have let others do the work for me.
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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2011, 05:35:10 PM »

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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2011, 11:01:15 PM »

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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2011, 11:38:53 AM »
Are the stock MBHO cables balanced?  Also, it seems to me that if they do use mulitple twisted-pairs of cable they shouldn't need all 4 to be twisted-pairs since a standard 3-pin microphone cable only has 2 sets of twisted-pair cables.

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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2011, 12:49:26 PM »
Are the stock MBHO cables balanced?  Also, it seems to me that if they do use mulitple twisted-pairs of cable they shouldn't need all 4 to be twisted-pairs since a standard 3-pin microphone cable only has 2 sets of twisted-pair cables.

the mbho's are a 4 pin mini and the body of the mini xlr has to be grounded as well so you need all 5 wires(4 leads  and ground)

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Re: MBHO Active Cables
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2011, 04:32:38 PM »
Are the stock MBHO cables balanced?  Also, it seems to me that if they do use mulitple twisted-pairs of cable they shouldn't need all 4 to be twisted-pairs since a standard 3-pin microphone cable only has 2 sets of twisted-pair cables.

the mbho's are a 4 pin mini and the body of the mini xlr has to be grounded as well so you need all 5 wires(4 leads  and ground)

OK, thanks.  Didn't realize the bodies needed to be grounded, too.  I actually have a pair of your actives for my mbhos and there is a theater that I record at every once in a while and the place I really want to mount the capsules is too far away to use the capsules remotely because the cable isn't long enough.  I was thinking of making some w/ mini-starquad cable but since there are also stage lights and other electrical cables around the location I was worried about them picking up noise hence the balanced question.  But I think in this instance I guess I'll just mount the full bodies and use some long balanced starquads.

 

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