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Need a cable built
« on: October 07, 2007, 11:01:17 PM »
I was working with 2 different people on making this cable, but nothing seems to be working out.

I need the following built (Ford) tough for stealthing purposes and longevity.

BNC F (stereo) (should be as small as possible and/or right angle)
to
a 4'6" cable (must be thin but sturdy and preferably not black to make stealthing more hidden)
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straight 1/8" stereo connector (for an R-09)

I believe this should be pretty simple, but with the Schoeps BNC connectors on the pre-amp side, things seem to be tough.

Thanks

PS- was not sure if this should be here in Cables or in the Yard Sale, please move if I am wrong

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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2007, 01:38:48 PM »
I'm confused by the reference to "Schoeps BNC".  To what will the BNC-female attach?

This is the BNC-female connector with which I'm familiar...it's not a Schoeps-specific part:

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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2007, 06:12:31 PM »
I'm confused by the reference to "Schoeps BNC".  To what will the BNC-female attach?

This is the BNC-female connector with which I'm familiar...it's not a Schoeps-specific part:



I'm pretty sure Greg is just referencing that this would be an easy job if the pre-amp had a different type of connector for output.  That is all. 


I believe this should be pretty simple, but with the Schoeps BNC connectors on the pre-amp side, things seem to be tough.


Anyways, bump for Greg.  I know we've got some good quality cable makers on the board, but so far, no one's been able to help him. 

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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2007, 09:50:39 PM »
Sorry for any confusion.

The connector that comes out of the VMS is a standard BNC connector (like the picture shows) and that is the tough part of this cable, as I dont think anything else out there uses the BNC connector any more.

I had a cable that Klay Anderson built for me that died/broke and he cant make them any more, so I am kind of stuck with the resources here (and I dont mean stuck in a bad way) as I dont know where else to turn.

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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2007, 10:15:34 PM »
Try contacting Ed at KindKables directly via email or phone.  He made me a nice right-angle BNC > right-angle BNC cable.
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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 10:29:29 PM »
Thanks I just sent him an PM, I would rather make initial contact via the board, then talk in person, seems to set a comfort level 1st :)

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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2007, 10:30:12 PM »
Try contacting Ed at KindKables directly via email or phone.  He made me a nice right-angle BNC > right-angle BNC cable.

What for?  Just curious... and have any pix?  +T

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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2007, 10:42:28 PM »
What for?  Just curious... and have any pix?  +T

Word Clock sync.  To clarify:  right-angle BNC-male > right-angle BNC-male.  Low res mobile pic attached (can't find my digi cam battery charger).

You sure you want a BNC-female?  I've only ever seen panel-mount BNC-female on gear, while I've always seen BNC-male cables.  Not saying you're not right, just curious as I can't find any specs on the VMS online.
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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2007, 12:11:12 AM »
Here is a pix of the back of a VMS02:

I know it is not the best, but it shows the BNC connectors

or this older pix of my original VMS

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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2007, 12:18:20 AM »
Here is a pix of the back of a VMS02:

Those look like BNC-female on the VMS.  Looks to me like you need a (2) mono BNC-male > stereo 1/8" cable.  My personal preference would be for a right-angle stereo 1/8", but I've not used the R-09 so don't know if/how that would work.  Definitely give Ed a call or email, I bet he can make it.
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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2007, 01:00:34 AM »
Those look like BNC-female on the VMS. 

Yes

Looks to me like you need a (2) mono BNC-male > stereo 1/8" cable

Correct, in my head that is what I put in the original post, but good catch, yea, I will need 2 mono going to the 1/8" male connector

My personal preference would be for a right-angle stereo 1/8", but I've not used the R-09 so don't know if/how that would work.  Definitely give Ed a call or email, I bet he can make it.

I have an external -10db pad device that is 1/8" inline, and the right angle connector about 1.5" off the R09 would be a pain to handle

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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2007, 12:41:54 PM »
Do you have a pic of your old cable (albeit broken) to foster some ideas?


Edit:

What about picking up a pair of these, then getting an RCA (M) > stereo 1/8th?

http://www.techonweb.com/products/productdetail.aspx?id=D45345&src=FG
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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2007, 09:24:13 PM »
Here are pix: http://www.tikcuf.us/photos/v/taping/stealthcable/

And I use those now, to a radio shack RCA>1/8" cable, and with the converter and RCA plug on the RS cable, it makes the deck about 1.5" longer and that much harder to stealth with :(

The cable before was nice and compact and also had a -10db pad built in... had I known what kind of gold I had, I would have ordered a dozen of them to have "just in case"

I just assumed, been built before, can be built again LOL

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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2007, 07:20:20 AM »
I was the last failure on this cable.
my problems:

1.  BNC connectors. 
I cant' tell you how many I bought and ruined on this cable.  seems there are many different variations of BNC plugs, and they require crimping and not soldering.
I even went out and dumped $60 on a crimper for this (and other) projects.  Still can't get the right freakin' connecters.  I just dont know what i'm doing w/those.

2. opened up the 3.5mm end only to have a bunch of broken resistors fall out.  this was the home-brew attenuator.
my problem here is that i'm not an EE.  so I have no clue as to what values these have, how much attenuation they are providing...etc.
This new problem lead me to buy several books on EE basics so that I could learn how to make this.

3.  time.
I have too many projects, kids, dogs, wives..., leaving much time only for things that I know I can finish once I start.

:(

good luck.
fwiw, I have rebuilt the original cable, sans -10db pad.  PM me your addie and I'll send it back.

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Re: Need a cable built
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2007, 12:09:56 PM »
i'm no cable maker, but if the original connectors are ok, could you splice a new cable into the old?
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