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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2007, 02:21:15 PM »

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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2007, 03:15:15 PM »
Because I now want one, the cost will be astronomical...
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2007, 03:16:19 PM »
Because I now want one, the cost will be astronomical...

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wouldya of thought otherwise  ;D

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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2007, 03:30:14 PM »
Only in my dreams...

but seriously, three mic mix + all those output formats?
That is pretty sweet.
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2007, 06:32:39 PM »
Now if it had four mic inputs, it would be super sweet.  Wonder whether you can use the other analog stereo in, or any of the digital inputs simultaneously with the mics. 
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2007, 01:12:26 AM »
Wonder whether you can use the other analog stereo in, or any of the digital inputs simultaneously with the mics. 

This was exactly what I was wondering.  If so, it would be super slick.

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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2007, 02:30:57 AM »
We need to find out how much and if they are in production asap
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2007, 07:13:26 PM »
Hey now,

Got intouch with Aeta and heres some more info.

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We are pleased to know your interest in our MIXY.

We were exhibiting last week at the NAB in Vegas and presented MIXY.

Units are now shipping. In the US we are in the process to set up a distribution network but in the mean time we can deal directly.

 

Price list for the unit is : 1600 € which is around 2000 USD.

As accessories:

 

 
 MIXY - Options and accessories
 
80 00 047 01
 Mixy bag (Standard)
 
80 00 048 01
 Extension Pack (Mixy)
 
80 00 050 01
 Mixy bag (Large model)
 
80 00 049 01
 Mixy AC Power Adapter/Charger
 
15 00 063 91
 Car battery adaptor (Mixy)
 
15 00 063 61
 Line in / Line out adapter cables (Mixy)
 
15 00 063 31
 AES output cable (Mixy)
 
15 00 063 41
 SPDIF output cable (Mixy)
 
15 00 063 71
 Cable for wireless transmitter (Mixy)
 
15 00 063 81
 Cable for wireless receiver (Mixy)
 
80 00 051 01
 Option: Line In on 10-pin Hirose socket
 
15 00 064 01
 NP1 Battery holder (Mixy)
 
ZAAS00029
 NP1 Li-Ion battery pack
 

 

Prices are EXWORKS which means that transport is on your behalf!

 

At your disposal for any information you might require,

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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2007, 01:48:44 PM »

You beat me to it.   They responed to my email this morning.  Is anyone really thinking about getting one? and does any one know specifics on how they work.

Can you take two chanels analog in through another input besides the xlr connects?

This does look to be possible via the 5 pin analog in.

So essentially you can run 7 tracks down to stereo with this, pretty cool.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2007, 03:07:01 PM by Senor Nizzel »
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2007, 04:25:38 AM »
quit stupid layout desighn if you ask me
probably not more then 5 to 2 mix
the return may actually work as aditional line feed to the main bus , maybe with intermnal level control .
these things are made for eng style working , not to place evem one xlr out  is the same stupidity i sow on sqn .
as woody ellen said - it  runs grate in france , sorry the rest of the world works quit diferently .
the internal rechargble battery is also somthing i dont like , at least they where making something standart that can be detached or replaced for regullar batteries box ( psc alfa mix)
if your battery dies - you in grate shit if you dont have external power .
it may sounds grate  but i dont see them seeling allot even this is completly digital mixer


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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2007, 01:37:16 PM »
quit stupid layout desighn if you ask me
probably not more then 5 to 2 mix wrong
the return may actually work as aditional line feed to the main bus , maybe with intermnal level control .
these things are made for eng style working , not to place evem one xlr out  is the same stupidity i sow on sqn . wrong
as woody ellen said - it  runs grate in france , sorry the rest of the world works quit diferently .
the internal rechargble battery is also somthing i dont like , at least they where making something standart that can be detached or replaced for regullar batteries box ( psc alfa mix) Wrong
if your battery dies - you in grate shit if you dont have external power .
it may sounds grate  but i dont see them seeling allot even this is completly digital mixer




Oleg sorry to conradict, but almost all your alsumptions are completely wrong.

1.  3 preamps + two channels of out board analog + two channels of outboard digital= 7 channel mix, all inputs are completely routable to any output or to a mix.  This means you could use this unit as a through put for any analog signal to a separate recorder either analog or digital into said recorder.  While at the same time using another recorder to grab the preamp channels, while also using it to sync all sources.

2.Internal battery runs unit for 10hrs and it has conector for attaching a outboard battery.  So you are not screwed if your battery dies, not to mention you could just open it up and change the internal very easily any way.\

3.There is a connector that can be ordered with the unit that has 3 xlr outs on it, you could also have it terminated to rca there are also dig cables that can be ordered with varying inputs and out put terminated on them.


We all need to read up around here before er jump to conclusions
I have been intouch with Aeta and am currently working on getting a demo unit sent to the US I'll keep it updated.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2007, 01:49:30 PM by Senor Nizzel »
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2007, 04:04:13 AM »
Oleg sorry to conradict, but almost all your alsumptions are completely wrong.

1.  3 preamps + two channels of out board analog + two channels of outboard digital= 7 channel mix, all inputs are completely routable to any output or to a mix.  This means you could use this unit as a through put for any analog signal to a separate recorder either analog or digital into said recorder.  While at the same time using another recorder to grab the preamp channels, while also using it to sync all sources.

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iam not talking about cascading , i can do the same with my 302( not digital in ) , so my dear i dont wrong - this is 5 channel not 7

about pre fader feed- i dont think so - the digiout and analog out are probably from the main bus , so you can send only the main bus out after ato d converter , no direct outs , what mean that everything come in  going together to the outs


if like i can cascade 20 mixers in chain that  not what i want do that  , still dont know  if the line ins could be adjusted at all , probably yes  true the menu and if they could be sent left right separately , even that becomes not more as another  feed input  . not real on the fly adjustment  inputs .
the digi in is nice , when you fined what to do with in the real world situation tell me :-)

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2.Internal battery runs unit for 10hrs and it has connector for attaching a outboard battery.  So you are not screwed if your battery dies, not to mention you could just open it up and change the internal very easily any way.\



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i didn't see the internal battery , but i can suppose it is uniq to this recorder 9 i hope it li-ion  so it doesnt loose capacity when yoou dont work and live much better in cold weather), so you need to waist 200 euro  to have another . not so good if you  have only one  and you want buy another  in the local hardware store .
external power - its external power , have nothing deal with internal batteries , i use all my gear with external power what doesnt mean i like be free use my gear with internal power i can find easily and for cheap if i need .
by the way - feel the pain of the m -audio users :-)
10 hours its good  as it is , but its not enouth .



3.There is a connector that can be ordered with the unit that has 3 xlr outs on it, you could also have it terminated to rca there are also dig cables that can be ordered with varying inputs and out put terminated on them.


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i dont want inter-connectors that adding weight and become another weak point in the chain to run to the camera or recorder . we are not talking about sitting an jerking during concerts , but about running after camera and the tension you have on cables , less inter connectors  -less chance get  f...



as i said extremely stupid layout  design  for the main porpus that device was created

and iam talking from 20 years of experience in that kind of business :-)



We all need to read up around here before er jump to conclusions
I have been intouch with Aeta and am currently working on getting a demo unit sent to the US I'll keep it updated

yes , iam not jumping to eniyjing i just look at the pictures :-)
ask them to send you the signal flow inside the mixer and  then we all be much intelegent:-)
exept the usb out which  was probably made to voice overs directly to nle  in news ( the reporters do it now on the fly directly to fcp or avid after they ending the piece ) or reporting to radio aplications .

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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2007, 01:46:29 PM »
Oleg, this is a concert recording forum we are much more focused here on that activity, not so much on broadcast/film stuff.  For our purposes this unit may offer a lot of nice features that you don't get from any of the other recorders on the market. 

There is a schematic on the web site if you want to look at signal flow.  I already did.
You can also send each input to separate channels as you asked about, so Ananlog channel one could go to say left digi out and so forth and so on.  Everthing that comes in together does not have to go to the outs together you can route any source to any out.  As I already said.
maybe I'm wrong but that means Aeta is wrong and they designed it.

I'm not just making this shit up, It is what I have been told by the guys at Aeta, as well as thourghly reading through the manual. 
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2007, 02:29:22 PM »
As far as size and weight go it weighs only 2.7 pounds, is only 6" X 5" X 1.9" that is tiny. 

Also here is a schematic:

   
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2007, 02:29:58 PM »
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2007, 02:51:14 PM »
ok , i missed the prefaders out as they come on the same socket as the the digi out ,
exept the output layout and  no real monitoring switch  for fast check on the in /outs ( dont really like tru the menu thing) , it may be very nice device , at least these who run 744 as iam .
i learned that stuff that made for film and it is friendly for use , is much friendly to use for conserts as well .
the problem with this nice mixer that it was made for french tv market  ( not frelance ) so has very differnt aproach .
ill try to put ahand on that one and check it sonicaly , it will be hard to sesapoint as theyr privius 2000 was a wonderfull mixer .
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2007, 03:02:26 PM »
I agree I would not want to be messing around with the menu during critical recording.  The output cable is also locking to the 12 pin hirose socket, I think, so it may hold fairly well probably not good for the long run though.
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2007, 03:08:17 PM »
there is nothing wrong with 12 pin hirossa , i use it regularly with my sd mixer .
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2007, 03:17:55 PM »
Thats good to know, I've never used one.  So they hold up over time very well? 
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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2007, 07:48:32 PM »
For an extra $100 still seems like a step ahead of ther new Sonosax 3ch mixer.
http://www.sonosax.com/index2.html
Im  not looking to get either one,I love the schoeps/sonosax sxm2 sound too much.

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Re: mixi-allot of gain
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2007, 12:50:13 PM »
they both have exellent preamps , the sonosax  has less feuters but at least normal output layout , the french ahs allot of wonderfull things exept the right connectors :-)
if you ask me  for tappers the aeta would be perfect companion as it much flexible , for eng guys , the sonosax is hard to bit ..
iam really waiting for the sonosax 6+2 mixer recorder as it ;ooks to be perfect for both  of my worlds
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