Topic: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison

[Brian Skalinder]

The V3 captured what was there in the room and in this instance what was in the room didn't sound all that great.

I don't think this test should be viewed as a knock on the V3 as much as a proving how good the mod ua5's really can sound.

Agreed!

I think the next step then is p-mod v. v3 and minime v. w.mod.

I plan on repeating this comp in a bigger venue with a louder, bass-heavier rock band - curious to see the results, then.

If Jesse Scott and I can ever hook up in Cleveland, we'll do w w-mod v. p-mod, too.  After that, who knows...  

[Tim]

thanks again Brian

[F.O.Bean]

alright, this might sound st00pid, but i thought the wmod was supposed to be like a v3 and the pmod was more like a mme, or is this backwards???me gots ta do a v3 v. wmod/pmod w/ 481's....brian, wanna borrow those, ill send em yer way... :ofor real

[Joe w.]

i dunno bean. I think it is the other way around. That is what I was told when i bought mine. the names would suggest the same thing as an apogee is 'warmer' than the grace boxes.

[wrangler_n_space]

So who wants to trade their v3 for my Wmod?

I like blinking lights.

[F.O.Bean]

i dunno bean. I think it is the other way around. That is what I was told when i bought mine. the names would suggest the same thing as an apogee is 'warmer' than the grace boxes.

thats what i was thinkin too, but i recall someone saying diff,i dunno, i should check the archives(skalinder would be proud )thanks joe

[Brian Skalinder]

Yeah, Bean, I too have been on and off confused about which mod turns the sound towards Grace/Apogee.  I spoke with Jim Oade when I sent mine in to be modded and he said warm mod is supposed to be Grace-like, presence mod is supposed to be Apogee-like.

[marc0789]

Marc laughs.  

[dmonterisi]

Marc laughs.  

turnabout is fair play, we've been laughing at you for months!

i haven't listened to the comp, but it sounds to me like it verified what most people think of the v3, that it is very transparent, and transparency doesn't always translate into the best tape for a given situation.  I'm sticking with mine, but maybe now there will be a flood of v3's to the yard sale.

[marc0789]

....it's the two boxes for one theory. Never works. See dual well cassette decks and the ill-fated Tascam 302. Too much shit in one container to do it all. However, it sounds like Doug and the UA-5 folks have maybe accomplished quite a feat....for 500 buckos?!

[dmonterisi]

....it's the two boxes for one theory. Never works. See dual well cassette decks and the ill-fated Tascam 302. Too much shit in one container to do it all. However, it sounds like Doug and the UA-5 folks have maybe accomplished quite a feat....for 500 buckos?!

how does skalinder's test demonstrate that you can't put both of these in one box?  certainly you can always have better components separately, and i don't think people have ever claimed the v3 is better than say v2>ad2k, especially at 24bit.  what the comp demonstrated is this, and only this: that for the band/PA/room being taped, the wmodua5/mk4 combo was preferred by more listeners than the v3/mk4 combo.  that's it.  there are way too many variables in the equation to extrapolate such broad conclusions.  your specious reasoning does not support your truncated analysis.

[Joe w.]

your specious reasoning does not support your truncated analysis.

sounds like you put on your fancy pants this morning.  

[marc0789]

don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say Brian's test proved anything of the kind. That's what I think after running a v3, mme and even 1k as a onebox. I feel the shortcoming of the mme is the loose pre, and the shortcoming of the v3 is *not* the preamp, but thin sounding punchless dither. I haven't heard it, but opinions seem slanted toward the ua5 having done a nice job in one box, with Doug's assistance, which means a whole lot.

[creekfreak]

I love how everyone is ready to trade their V3 in for a UA-5 after one comp tape that didn't even allow you to listen to the same song going through different sources....you guys kill me  

[marc0789]

not the same song? That's not too helpful.