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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2015, 02:19:32 PM »
Did the entire Umphrey's NYE run without changing batteries on the M10. 5 nights, 11 sets, all over an hour plus a 4 hour ride home listening back. Only dropped one bar

Lithiums? I can still get around 18-20 hours on my m10s with 5 year old Energizer 2300mah AAs ;D 8) But I have a HQ charger and did a proper "break-in" when I first got them! Well worth the $60 I spent on my charger :)

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2015, 09:22:50 AM »
Have my M10 now from the Thomann Deal for 174 Euros ...
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2015, 08:34:20 PM »
I called today and inquired about a new Sony PCM-M10 and was advised by my dealer that Sony has announced that the M-10 will be discontinued. 

For those dealers that have no stock, prices may creep a little higher, as Sony is not discounting the unit. 

For those dealers that have large stock supplies, you may see prices dip below $200.

I found a unit at Guitar Center, for in stock items only, for $170 free shipping.  B&H has it for $199 free shipping.   Sweetwater has it for $250. 

No replacement model has been announced, but I assume an announcement is forthcoming.


Doesn't look like anything has been announced yet: https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-audio/resource.latest
as the m10 is still listed.

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cardioid microphones
Maybe dual recording like you can do on tascam's dr-2d

Don't want:
touch screen
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2015, 11:16:36 PM »
I've been thinking about replacing my R-09HR. Since so many people have loved the M10, and who knows what will come if/when it is discontinued, I just ordered an M10 at B&H for $199.  Hopefully it will work nicely with my CA14 cards (which I usually tape to the sides of my eyeglasses), or my CA11 croakie cards > CA9200 pre.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2015, 02:39:10 PM »
I've been thinking about replacing my R-09HR. Since so many people have loved the M10, and who knows what will come if/when it is discontinued, I just ordered an M10 at B&H for $199.  Hopefully it will work nicely with my CA14 cards (which I usually tape to the sides of my eyeglasses), or my CA11 croakie cards > CA9200 pre.

An M10 will definitely play nicely with the CA11>CA9200 combination. Here's the first show I taped with the same set-up:

https://soundcloud.com/liverecordings-1/sets/idlewild-the-roundhouse-london-2015-03-13

Really happy with that :)
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2015, 03:20:54 PM »
I'm so glad I got the M10 .So far I got 2 great shows out of it with the Sony mics.Kept the volume knob around 3 and 3 1/2  and it came out great.I have no issues with the knob turning and I'm glad they have that type of level control then the digital type that the R09HR has.If they upgrade it.They could make the font on the screen bigger  is my only rant about it..I dont need touch screen and WiFi features like the new digital cameras have.I wish the price at B&H will come down on it since I purchased it from there last year to replace my R09HR.I use the R09HR for the backup since it still runs great and it replaced the Sony minidisc I was using for the backup recorder.

I would love to pick up another M10 up  before they close out on them.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2015, 10:50:46 AM »
X/Y internal mics with wider stereo

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2015, 01:57:20 PM »
for solely using as the input for mics, with a powered amp (CA), is this the best option?  I'm also looking at the R-05.  I have an R-09HR but I used it last week and it seems something has hit it hard enough to make the screen have lines in it and there is something rattling inside.... sigh.  Sucks.

So I'm looking for a possible replacement.  I wasn't sure if the R-05 was better than the R-09HR, and/or if the M10 was better than R-05 in some way (other than mics, which I won't be using).

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2015, 02:29:51 PM »
M10 has the killer battery life...

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2015, 02:39:49 PM »
for solely using as the input for mics, with a powered amp (CA), is this the best option?  I'm also looking at the R-05.  I have an R-09HR but I used it last week and it seems something has hit it hard enough to make the screen have lines in it and there is something rattling inside.... sigh.  Sucks.

So I'm looking for a possible replacement.  I wasn't sure if the R-05 was better than the R-09HR, and/or if the M10 was better than R-05 in some way (other than mics, which I won't be using).

Thanks!

I had an R-05.  I liked it but there seems to be a design issue with the circuit board where the inputs will eventually short out even with gentle use (and it's on the board, not in any wiring). 

I replaced that R-05 with an M-10.

The R-05 is very compact and seems to have good specs especially through the line-in.  It is definitely more cheaply made and less rugged feeling than the M-10 though.  The M-10 recording level control (the wheel) is way, way better than the R-05 push button.  Worth the upgrade for that alone IMO.  The test specs are better (I think it is a little quieter, cleaner though that may not matter with loud shows).  The M-10 limiter is much better.  The battery life is better. 

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2015, 02:44:16 PM »
thanks bomb.  I never mess with input level since I just do my analog levels through my CA-9200 amp, but I'll keep that in mind.  If there will be issues down the road with the board, that's good info.

My concerns with the M-10 are microSD (bleh) and the wheel that can get bumped if it's in my pocket (I have a couple low-pro amps to use for certain situations).

Being used to the R09 for almost 10 years the interface is easy for me too.

Is the M-10 going away?  Most Amazon listings seem to be used now.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2015, 02:49:45 PM »
thanks bomb.  I never mess with input level since I just do my analog levels through my CA-9200 amp, but I'll keep that in mind.  If there will be issues down the road with the board, that's good info.

My concerns with the M-10 are microSD (bleh) and the wheel that can get bumped if it's in my pocket (I have a couple low-pro amps to use for certain situations).

Being used to the R09 for almost 10 years the interface is easy for me too.

I don't like the microSD either (and had to get some cards for it, but they're cheap now).  The Sony does have 2 GB internal, which has been useful on occasion (like if you forget a card or run out of room as it will seemlessly go cross-memory).   The wheel seems pretty hard to move unintentionally.  I think the lock locks the levels as well (but not sure about that)?

If you got 10 years out of the R-09 that's great.  I'd be very concerned you wouldn't get more than a few months from an R-05 in your pocket (mine was never pocketed). 
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2015, 03:00:51 PM »
for solely using as the input for mics, with a powered amp (CA), is this the best option?  I'm also looking at the R-05.  I have an R-09HR but I used it last week and it seems something has hit it hard enough to make the screen have lines in it and there is something rattling inside.... sigh.  Sucks.

So I'm looking for a possible replacement.  I wasn't sure if the R-05 was better than the R-09HR, and/or if the M10 was better than R-05 in some way (other than mics, which I won't be using).

Thanks!

My R-09HR sometimes has lines in it.It comes and goes.I still use it for a back up.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2015, 03:23:06 PM »
thanks all!
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2015, 04:05:11 PM »
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My concerns with the M-10 are microSD (bleh)

IMHO, no issue, cheap and just format ever couple of shows, and good as new

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the wheel that can get bumped if it's in my pocket (I have a couple low-pro amps to use for certain situations).

Rare, I have been using the m10 since it came out with no issue at all on the knob being bumped or changed in the pocket

 

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