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Audition wizards step inside, please.
« on: June 03, 2017, 02:25:05 PM »
So I've un-earthed a 2005 vintage live show that I archived to CDr as one untracked aud file (.cda) I had to split it into two to fit two 80's. No big deal, right?

I see it's a show that will fill a hole on the LMA and decide to add it.

I extract each CD into wav files via EAC.
Roll those into Audition 3.0 as end to end tracks in multitrack mode.
I then write the track out to a new named file.  Size looks proper. Bingo, we're good.

No.

When I go to reopen the product in Audition I'm presented with an  "Early End of File" popup alert stating "End of file found too early, data will be truncated." Of the original file written out and then reopened, only 4:40 of the original 60:00+ is apparently accessible.

WTF? I have to admit, this work flow is not something I do every day but can see  more of it going forward as I get settled into the dark days of retirement... where all I do is paw around in my old crap...  ::)

What does work is if I just fart off Audition and open it in CDwave Editor for tracking, the ultimate goal in the first place. This other deal bugs me though.

Any thoughts appreciated.
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Re: Audition wizards step inside, please.
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2017, 03:42:01 PM »
I would try "Extract Audio from CD" in AA to see if that makes any difference in how it reads the files.

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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2017, 05:20:23 PM »
 I could. However, I've always thought that EAC was the gold standard when it came to extraction.  I'll see if it seems different.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2017, 08:47:50 PM »
Why do you use multitrack?  You might try just using the 'edit' part instead of 'multitrack'.  Just open up both files, copy the 2nd file, and paste it to the end of the first file and then save.

Also, if you do use multitrack are you saving as Export > Audio Mix down?  Ironically CDwav doesn't like some of my files unless I save it this way.  Ah well, can't complain since the price was right for Audition 3 (free).
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2017, 11:45:40 PM »
I find I can do a little more in multitrack mode is why. Crossfades, for instance. I'm comfy with the work flow. Never the less, the files that it did save were readable in CDwave so it's kind of moot. Thanks for the thought, though.
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Re: Audition wizards step inside, please.
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2017, 01:11:53 PM »
How about:

File > Open  (cd1)
File > Open Append (append cd2)

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2017, 01:28:26 PM »
I don't know why the OP's issue arose but it seems it somehow corrupted (though not enought it isn't readable elsewhere). 

File > Open  (cd1)
File > Open Append (append cd2)

This is what I do with anything in sections in AA.  Open, then Open Append any additional parts. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2017, 11:00:57 PM »
There may be some unique aspects of how Audition reads separate CD extracted wavs that get imported to a multitrack environment. Perhaps reading files appended strips off something and avoids my errors. I'll give it a whirl. Thanks
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2017, 01:03:32 AM »
There may be some unique aspects of how Audition reads separate CD extracted wavs that get imported to a multitrack environment. Perhaps reading files appended strips off something and avoids my errors. I'll give it a whirl. Thanks

I always open things in the edit mode (non multitrack) then import into the multitrack if I need that mode for some reason.  I probably do the opposite of your normal work flow. 
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Tinybox > Sony PCM-M10 (formerly Roland R-05) 
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Re: Audition wizards step inside, please.
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2017, 04:45:24 AM »
Oh, sure. I open them in edit mode then load  them into a single track in MT mode...

I opened both of the offending files as appended and, as is my experience, file 2 appears first followed by file 1. BTW, this has always been the case if I mark several extracted wavs for import as appended files.  File "last" will always start at 0 time followed in order by 2,3,4,n files. Very odd and dangerous.  :facepalm:  Is it this way for you?

Anyway, once opened as appended files into one audition session, then pushed into a MT track, the file saved and opened with no errors.

Good lesson to know. Thanks for all the feedback.

Good night and Good Luck!
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2017, 10:55:54 AM »
Oh, sure. I open them in edit mode then load  them into a single track in MT mode...

I misunderstood you then. 

I opened both of the offending files as appended and, as is my experience, file 2 appears first followed by file 1. BTW, this has always been the case if I mark several extracted wavs for import as appended files.  File "last" will always start at 0 time followed in order by 2,3,4,n files. Very odd and dangerous.  :facepalm:  Is it this way for you?

Never had that but as the poster above said I don't "mark them to import".  I Open part one then Open Append part two after part one is open. 

Anyway, once opened as appended files into one audition session, then pushed into a MT track, the file saved and opened with no errors.

Good lesson to know. Thanks for all the feedback.

Good night and Good Luck!

Glad that worked for you! 

Mystery not solved but solution found apparently. 
Gear:
Audio:
Schoeps MK4V
Nak CM-100/CM-300 w/ CP-1's or CP-4's
SP-CMC-25
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Oade C mod R-44  OR
Tinybox > Sony PCM-M10 (formerly Roland R-05) 
Video: Varied, with various outboard mics depending on the situation

 

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