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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2017, 09:46:47 AM »
In what way do your Dad & Brother have problems with the file sizes?

Well, I have a paid Dropbox account, so I have lot's of space. I put the tracks into a folder on my dropbox and shared it with them. When I was at my folks house last night, he was having trouble because his dropbox (free account) didn't have enough room to download the files to. I really am not trying to get this stuff into his dropbox, but onto his computer. So I was thinking, either I transfer the files to him a different way, or a reduce their size.

And yeah, I do FLACs myself, but these guys aren't hip to all of that. They need more consumer-level files. I was thinking of going all the way to mp3s...but it just kills me to do that.

Why? If the listeners don't care, why should you?

You recorded Dead & Co from a PA system with a max dynamic range of maybe 20-12,000Hz from like 100-200 ft away. It's always good to store stuff for yourself in hi-res format, but it won't make any appreciable difference in listening, certainly not to most people. A V0 MP3 or 320 MP3 will be just about indistinguishable from those WAV files and much easier for your listeners to handle, and presumably you're making the stuff available for them to enjoy...
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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2017, 12:47:15 PM »
Thanks for even more replies! I do appreciate it!

How about file naming philosophy? How do you name your stuff?
kindms and I are constantly discussing this.
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artistyyyy-mm-ddmicinfo.bitratedxtxx          so a typical one would be: erevival2016-07-16ck22ck61.24d1t01   
kindms prefers to put the bitrate at the end of the string with no period separators as he feels Windows handles the period separators oddly:
erevival2016-07-16ck22ck61d1t0124              ( I may be wrong, hopefully he can chime in to affirm or correct this)       
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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2017, 01:30:46 PM »
kindms prefers to put the bitrate at the end of the string with no period separators as he feels Windows handles the period separators oddly:
erevival2016-07-16ck22ck61d1t0124              ( I may be wrong, hopefully he can chime in to affirm or correct this)       

In Windows particularly but proper file naming convention in general what follows a "." should be the file type extension (wav or mp3 or jpg or txt, etc.).  More modern editions of Windows probably won't be thrown by a bunch of "."'s in the middle of a file but I don't like it.  That's why I said I use a "-" rather than a "." in my thoughts above. 
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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2017, 04:05:15 PM »
More modern editions of Windows probably won't be thrown by a bunch of "."'s in the middle of a file but I don't like it.  That's why I said I use a "-" rather than a "." in my thoughts above.

I don't like it either. I definitely prefer the "-" hyphen character over a "." period or dot as a separator. The Underscore "_" and "~" tilde characters are also useful if you need to separate words or sections within a filename sequence.

Also note that some file systems, especially Linux/Unix-based ones (like the ones that power archive.org) ARE cASE sENSITIVE!  :-X

Be cautious that your file naming is all consistent, and if you make changes, be sure that the case of your extensions is ALSO consistent! foo-bar.FLAC is NOT the same file as foo-bar.flac on SOME systems, though it may be on yours!
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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2017, 11:02:13 AM »
Thanks for all the responses....those are great suggestions.

Thank you all!
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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2017, 11:35:02 AM »
After Mastering,

Split and Name Tracks in Goldwave
Then Convert to Flac in Media Monkey.  Media Monkey has a cool "mask" feature where it will automatically name and then transfer to a folder of your choice in whatever format you want.  Mine look like this:  Artist/Show/Artist - xx (track number) song title, so under the folder "Live Concerts" will be Clapton, Eric, within that folder is Eric Clapton 2017 05-19 Royal Albert Hall London UK.  Within that folder are the tracks Eric Clapton - 01 Layla.flac

Sharing is easy, burn to CD or convert to mp3 using Media Monkey

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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2017, 07:41:32 PM »
As far as file naming is concerned, Windows is tolerant of more than one "." in a file name, so these "rules" mentioned earlier are really personal preference at this point. 

An important thing to be aware of when/if you split the tracks: it's a good idea to split at the sector boundaries.  If you're not familiar with this concept, it pretty much boils down to this: the smallest time segment that can be stored on a CD is 1/75th of a second, and the boundaries between these segments are called "sector boundaries."  If your track split does not fall on one of these sector boundaries, you will hear an unpleasant artifact (a pop or click) as the CD player transitions between tracks.

I use free software called CD Wave Editor for my track splits.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2017, 08:24:41 PM »

I use free software called CD Wave Editor ....


I feel obligated to correct this statement.  CD Wave is shareware, and is not free.  If you have not paid Mike the $15 to register it you really should.  If you use it as often as most of us do it is a pittance for the value that we get out of his work.  /public service message
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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2017, 08:58:45 PM »

I use free software called CD Wave Editor ....


I feel obligated to correct this statement.  CD Wave is shareware, and is not free.  If you have not paid Mike the $15 to register it you really should.  If you use it as often as most of us do it is a pittance for the value that we get out of his work.  /public service message

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Re: Common "Workflows" Post-Recording- Specifically file management
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2017, 03:11:57 PM »
An important thing to be aware of when/if you split the tracks: it's a good idea to split at the sector boundaries.  If you're not familiar with this concept, it pretty much boils down to this: the smallest time segment that can be stored on a CD is 1/75th of a second, and the boundaries between these segments are called "sector boundaries."  If your track split does not fall on one of these sector boundaries, you will hear an unpleasant artifact (a pop or click) as the CD player transitions between tracks.
Note that these boundaries are only meaningful on 44.1 kHz recordings. 48kHz is not used for direct CD burning, so split points will not be able to be correlated with CD sector boundaries.

Audacity can snap to nearest sector boundaries too, and it's open-source freeware.
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