Author Topic: v3/mini-me firewire mod's (Read 7086 times)

ice8888 · « **on:** December 11, 2003, 12:59:31 PM »

so when these things came out we all kept hearing about how there would be a firewire mod for both units. any idea on where that stands? just wondering since both units were supposed to be modular in design. at least, the mini-me was supposed to be that way.

ice

dmonterisi · « **Reply #1 on:** December 11, 2003, 01:05:07 PM »

i talked to mike grace about this a couple of months ago...he said it's on their horizon, but not a major priority...they had started work on it, but then backed off while other projects took priority...from the sound of it, it became a more difficult issue than originally thought...it may be worth an email to someone at grace to find out if they have done anything more.

MattD · « **Reply #2 on:** December 11, 2003, 03:29:37 PM »

As I have discovered with Metric Halo, this is NOT an easy challenge for a small company to tackle. Fortunately, Grace already has hardware products out there, unlike MH.

THE NIZ BIAAAAACH! · « **Reply #3 on:** December 11, 2003, 03:31:10 PM »

Apogee has said that the fire wire mod will be available be next fall at the latest, I Think.

jpschust · « **Reply #4 on:** December 12, 2003, 12:22:46 PM »

just like the time table for the mme's, right? yah right.

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2003, 12:33:45 PM »

It should be availible sooner according to unnamed sources I have spoken with! They sent me a free t-shirt too!

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nic · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2003, 01:04:57 PM »

do Grace and Apogee realize how quickly these machines would sell(moreso than they do now) if they had Firewire?!
there would be NO problems running 24/96+

dmonterisi · « **Reply #7 on:** December 12, 2003, 01:06:54 PM »

i believe they do...call mike grace, he'll talk to you about it...he specifically said that it was a lot more difficult than they originally expected to make a reliable firewire output....so i don't think the market value of such a thing is lost on him, it's just not as simple as putting a firewire port on the back of the box.

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #8 on:** December 12, 2003, 01:10:19 PM »

Quote from: luvean on December 12, 2003, 01:04:57 PM

do Grace and Apogee realize how quickly these machines would sell(moreso than they do now) if they had Firewire?!
there would be NO problems running 24/96+

Only way to run 24/anything in the field right now is on laptop, right? I wonder how many laptop tapers and laptop field recording engineers there are. Relative to the market numbers for the V3 as it stands today as well as their market numbers for their other gear (801, 201, 101, 901, 904, 906) I suspect relatively small. Hence, their focus on the V3 as it exists today and their other gear.

nic · « **Reply #9 on:** December 12, 2003, 01:12:58 PM »

"Only way to run 24/anything in the field right now is on laptop, right? I wonder how many laptop tapers and laptop field recording engineers there are."

add to that studio engineers who do project work on the road and dont want to have to carry big rack units with them just to listen/edit their projects. you would be surprised how many there actually are!

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #10 on:** December 12, 2003, 01:15:23 PM »

Quote from: luvean on December 12, 2003, 01:12:58 PM

"Only way to run 24/anything in the field right now is on laptop, right? I wonder how many laptop tapers and laptop field recording engineers there are."

add to that studio engineers who do project work on the road and dont want to have to carry big rack units with them just to listen/edit their projects. you would be surprised how many there actually are!

Fair enough, I hadn't thought of that.

Shoot, I don't even care about 24/96, I'm just tired of DAT (and not willing to go the laptop route). Gimme an optical out on the V3 and I'll be happy! But, that's not going to happen any time soon, either. Hence my testing the Hosa ODL-312 AES/EBU > S/PDIF optical format converter with my V3/JB3. I have high hopes, but expect to be disappointed.

dmonterisi · « **Reply #11 on:** December 12, 2003, 01:17:40 PM »

i agree, DAT blows...but if anyone wants to buy a D10ProII, it's a great deck!!!!!

MattD · « **Reply #12 on:** December 12, 2003, 02:30:00 PM »

I'm still wondering if M-Audio's FW endeavor will be successful or if they'll hit the same problems Metric Halo did.

scb · « **Reply #13 on:** December 12, 2003, 02:40:10 PM »

buy it and see for yourself. then report back

nic · « **Reply #14 on:** December 12, 2003, 02:45:41 PM »

JKeley has one and posted a mp3 sample earlier today...its hard to tell how the FW sounds with the quiter acoustic music he recorded w/ a pair of Oktavas...needs something loud and bassy!

MattD · « **Reply #15 on:** December 12, 2003, 03:17:03 PM »

Haha, Scott. You'll have the $ when you ditch your ULN-2. I'll check out John Kelly's at CL or VACO next week.

Luvean, acoustic music should tell you more about how a unit sounds than most PAs could ever hope to.

scb · « **Reply #16 on:** December 12, 2003, 03:20:12 PM »

matt, PLEASE run the 24/96 spark digital test with the 410

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #17 on:** December 12, 2003, 03:25:32 PM »

Quote from: scott brown on December 12, 2003, 03:20:12 PM

matt, PLEASE run the 24/96 spark digital test with the 410

Buy it and test it yourself, then report back.

DaryanLenz · « **Reply #18 on:** December 12, 2003, 03:42:48 PM »

Is the difference between 24/48 and 24/96 pretty large?

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Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #19 on:** December 12, 2003, 03:43:53 PM »

Quote from: ShittyTapes on December 12, 2003, 03:42:48 PM

Is the difference between 24/48 and 24/96 pretty large?

D

Oh, I'd say it's around 48 kHz or so.

scb · « **Reply #20 on:** December 12, 2003, 03:50:46 PM »

dammit brian, i knew someone would say that..hehe

nic · « **Reply #21 on:** December 12, 2003, 03:57:13 PM »

mattd, once you listen to the sample JKelley put up, you'll know what I meant by needing something loud and bassy

MattD · « **Reply #22 on:** December 12, 2003, 04:59:11 PM »

Ahh, the sample is in another thread - I'll check it out when I get home. If John doesn't mind giving me the SPDIF out of the 410, rather than going to DAT, I can test it out. Of course, to do your test requires that I run Spark and not DP4 ... maybe he'll want to run 4021>FW410, or I can test it out if there's an opener.

All to be determined.

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #23 on:** December 12, 2003, 07:02:47 PM »

Quote from: ShittyTapes on December 12, 2003, 03:42:48 PM

Is the difference between 24/48 and 24/96 pretty large?

D

the file sizes are 2 times larger, sonically, can the human ear tell the difference...

dmonterisi · « **Reply #24 on:** December 12, 2003, 07:13:17 PM »

i think the human ear can hear the difference in the right environment...the 24/96 studio dvd-a's that i have v. some that are 24/48, there is a noticeable difference...obviously not a scientific test as they are different recordings, etc. ... not sure whether taping a PA, especially from the section, there is a worthwhile difference...but i bet for what moke tapes, you can hear it.

dmonterisi · « **Reply #25 on:** December 12, 2003, 11:55:52 PM »

i can't wait to hear moke snoring in 24/96...rumor has it the old guy can't stay awake through a set and has to just the bathroom 6 times a set. and then his cane clanging off the stand! the vibrations through the speakers are just brilliant

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Jason B · « **Reply #26 on:** December 13, 2003, 09:36:35 AM »

Quote from: dmonterisi on December 12, 2003, 11:55:52 PM

i can't wait to hear moke snoring in 24/96...rumor has it the old guy can't stay awake through a set and has to just the bathroom 6 times a set. and then his cane clanging off the stand! the vibrations through the speakers are just brilliant

[/sarcasm]

Haha!

John Kelly · « **Reply #27 on:** December 14, 2003, 02:45:35 AM »

Quote from: MattD on December 12, 2003, 04:59:11 PM

Ahh, the sample is in another thread - I'll check it out when I get home. If John doesn't mind giving me the SPDIF out of the 410, rather than going to DAT, I can test it out. Of course, to do your test requires that I run Spark and not DP4 ... maybe he'll want to run 4021>FW410, or I can test it out if there's an opener.

All to be determined.

Why the hell would I want to run 4021>FW410??? The MC012s are so much better...

I'm up for any kind of tests you want to try.

creekfreak · « **Reply #28 on:** December 14, 2003, 09:34:38 PM »

I would care less about the mod's if someone would come out with a lappy or hd recorder with spdif in...heard the new mac 5's have it?

Author Topic: v3/mini-me firewire mod's (Read 7086 times)

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