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Which source did you prefer, and why?

I prefer A and think it's the V3
3 (18.8%)
I prefer A and think it's the wmod-UA5
4 (25%)
I prefer B and think it's the V3
5 (31.3%)
I prefer B and think it's the wmod-UA5
2 (12.5%)
I can't tell the difference between A and B
0 (0%)
I hate both tapes, stupid DMB stack tapers.
2 (12.5%)

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Author Topic: Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's  (Read 7194 times)

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2003, 04:29:38 PM »
sorry no pics.  dmb is not very friendly with cameras.  both mics were on 1 stand.  the V3 source at ~14 feet.  and my 480's clamped about 2 feet lower than his.  both A-B pointed dead on the stack from 6th row.  stack was probably about 20' away from the mics.


So, let's hear it... What is what?

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2003, 05:20:00 PM »
both mics were on 1 stand.  the V3 source at ~14 feet.  and my 480's clamped about 2 feet lower than his.  both A-B pointed dead on the stack from 6th row.  

Damn!  I thought they sounded too different.  Sorry guys - good effort but I don't think the comparison is valid if you're using separate mics (even if they're the same type and at the same elevation).

I kinda suspected there was more going on here...
I think the v3 and w-mod sound more unique and different in this comparison than in Brian's tests.  Not sure why - maybe we could get the whole chain outlined.  

I think we need to follow Brian's lead and truly isolate the gear being compared.  I honestly think either the two sets of mics sound different,  or the 2 foot spread between them made a difference.  But thanks regardless!

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2003, 10:23:35 PM »
I'm pretty sure the A source is the warm mod ua-5.
AKG391/92/93's-> Hydra Silver XLR's -> UA-5(Oade warm mod) -> Microtrack II,JB3

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2003, 10:27:23 PM »
^^ reasons
1.  The warm mod ua-5 seems to carry a more "up front" characteristic throughout these tests. (wonder how the p-mod does since that's supposed to be the more "up front" mod!)

2.  warm mod ua-5 has a richer sound
AKG391/92/93's-> Hydra Silver XLR's -> UA-5(Oade warm mod) -> Microtrack II,JB3

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2003, 10:30:02 PM »
^^
3.  AKG's are generally natural, flat mics and the V3 usually brings out the pure mic characteristics.  Source A sounds a bit more bassy for a mic that usually carries a flat, natural sound
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2003, 12:24:07 AM »
hey greg, how are those 391's treatin' ya?

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2003, 01:40:56 AM »
I've only listened to this on headphones (too late to crank up the volume) but I perfered B (which my change tommorrow when I listen through speakers)

In the  two comparisons that Brian did I guessed that the source I liked better was the V3 and was wrong both times, my guess this time is source B = Warm UA-5
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2003, 09:45:44 AM »
hey chase, the 391's are working well.  I taped a moe show in portland, ME and they worked perfectly, however, the boston 12-2 phish show came out a bit bass heavy/muddy for my taste..saving up for 393's which hopefully will fix that problem when taping in shitty venues like the fleet center.  FYI, I cannot seem to find that bnc connector for the DMIC-20.  I'll paypal you the money for the missing part once I find out how much a replacement costs.
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2003, 12:21:56 PM »
I was hoping to listen to this comp before I left town on vacation, but didn't have time.  Rats.  Gonna have to listen to it when I get back home in a week.  Looking forward to hearing it!
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2003, 03:11:10 PM »
greg don't worry about it, it was only $5 and i won't need one ever agin most likely.  glad you like the 391s, i need to get some hyper caps too.  and now back to V3 vs. UA-5....

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2003, 12:48:09 PM »
first off time for an apology.  this isn't a true comparison.  after talking to eric again he told me that he had the 70hz rolloff on the mics turned on.  he never mentioned it to me before cause he assumed i knew it cause he always uses it.  so i'll take the blame there.  as for which source is which.  A is the wmod and B is the V3.  thanks for listening and sorry for the not true comparison.
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2003, 07:46:21 AM »
first off time for an apology.  this isn't a true comparison.  after talking to eric again he told me that he had the 70hz rolloff on the mics turned on.  he never mentioned it to me before cause he assumed i knew it cause he always uses it.  so i'll take the blame there.  as for which source is which.  A is the wmod and B is the V3.  thanks for listening and sorry for the not true comparison.
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2003, 10:18:44 AM »
i would assume the V3 source has the rolloff since gsisak owns a w-mod ua-5.
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2003, 10:26:28 AM »
i would assume the V3 source has the rolloff since gsisak owns a w-mod ua-5.

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