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AD1K worth it?
« on: November 11, 2003, 10:28:32 AM »
I've got a chance to buy a broken AD1K for $150.

This is what the guy says about it:

The clock and the one of the boards were recently replaced.  It comes with 15 pin break out cable with one xlr for power, two spidif out.  I have a manual although they are also available at the apogee website for download if you wanted to check one out now.  Please keep in mind that my diagnosis may not be completely correct but my best guess is that the power supply looks to be arcing where it is sodered onto the board.  I removed the cover and turned on power and could see a very minimal spark at the board, and the power supply got very hot.  Previous to this the unit has worked exceptionally, it is also a platinum edition.

I'm pretty handy with fixing things and need some advice.
Should I go for it? Or is this unit a dinasaur that I shouldn't mess with?
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2003, 10:44:18 AM »
I would buy it. That's just me of course...

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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2003, 11:49:55 AM »
I wonder if anyone else has experience in repairing this problem?
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2003, 11:51:29 AM »
I wonder if anyone else has experience in repairing this problem?

Apogee probably does.   ;)  I know, this isn't the answer you're looking for, but even though they're no longer servicing them, they may be able to provide you with info: documentation, part numbers, etc.  Worth a try.
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2003, 11:56:39 AM »
Actually I e-mailed Gary at Apogee last night.
He confirmed that they don't repair them anymore and recommended I buy a Mini-Me!  :(
Maybe I'll beg in my next e-mail.
Of course He also said repair costs run $500-$600.
So it kind of defeats the purpose of find one so cheap.
If I get it I will try to repair it myself. IF that doesn't work does anyone know of a good component level repair shop? I should e-mail the Oades...
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2003, 12:39:52 PM »
IF that doesn't work does anyone know of a good component level repair shop?

Try Paul at prodigitalinc.com. I've heard he's done work on them before.

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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2003, 09:43:47 AM »
don't buy that fucking thing. Be patient, and at least search for one with a new word clock and/or digital circuit board, at least you'd have a fighting chance then. I think the going price for a cosmetically great unit with a new w/c is probably like 500 bucks anyway.

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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2003, 10:22:38 AM »
IF that doesn't work does anyone know of a good component level repair shop?

Try Paul at prodigitalinc.com. I've heard he's done work on them before.

I contacted Paul. This is what he said:
I'm surprised they don't repair them anymore!  We can fix most problems with the AD 500's and 1000's.
 
Please send unit w/ your 15 pin cord (We have one here but would like to check yours as well) and a note and we'll call w/ quote to repair.
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2003, 10:33:54 AM »
if its just the power supply with the problem, I'd say go for it if its really only $150!(especially if it had the word clock replaced recently)
power supplies are cheap and can be fixed easily


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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2003, 10:37:41 AM »
if its just the power supply with the problem, I'd say go for it if its really only $150!(especially if it had the word clock replaced recently)
power supplies are cheap and can be fixed easily

That's what I'm thinking.
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2003, 12:23:15 PM »
PM jcaledun I know he fixed a unit with a similar prob like this.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2003, 12:29:35 PM »
PM jcaledun I know he fixed a unit with a similar prob like this.

Thanks I e-mailed him. :)
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2003, 12:33:49 PM »
Actually I e-mailed Gary at Apogee last night.
He confirmed that they don't repair them anymore and recommended I buy a Mini-Me!  :(
Maybe I'll beg in my next e-mail.
Of course He also said repair costs run $500-$600.
So it kind of defeats the purpose of find one so cheap.
If I get it I will try to repair it myself. IF that doesn't work does anyone know of a good component level repair shop? I should e-mail the Oades...


Doug Oade e-mailed me back that me he doesn't work on these units.

Pro Digital Inc, is the only place I have found so far that will work on them.
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2003, 01:30:14 PM »
Its a risk. I bet you have to dump at least another $150 into. The problem is you really dont know. Be prepared to be out the $150 on it

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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2003, 01:33:22 PM »
Still, $300 total on a great pre A/D is good.
I really think I can fix it myself though.
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2003, 04:18:53 PM »
Does anyone know why the "crystal" goes bad in these units?
Is it a design flaw? Is it because of the heat inside the unit?
What is the projected "life span" of the crystal?
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2003, 10:43:32 PM »
If all goes well, I'll be joining team Apogee tomorrow!
I'll be on the team, but sitting on the bench until I can make the thing work though...
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2003, 12:17:50 AM »
you make up some of that money in the lot

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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2003, 04:05:26 AM »
If all goes well, I'll be joining team Apogee tomorrow!
I'll be on the team, but sitting on the bench until I can make the thing work though...

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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2003, 06:58:43 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2003, 10:00:12 AM »
If all goes well, I'll be joining team Apogee tomorrow!
I'll be on the team, but sitting on the bench until I can make the thing work though...

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Eventually... :)
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2003, 11:16:54 AM »
i know it's a bit late; sorry i just saw the thread.

yes, absolutely buy this as paul @ prodig will be able to fix for less than 150. i went through the same thing and mine cost about 100 to fix, 'course i bought mine for 475 so you're getting a far better deal.

again, (insert cajun voice) YOU CAN DO IT !
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2003, 12:04:24 PM »
i know it's a bit late; sorry i just saw the thread.

yes, absolutely buy this as paul @ prodig will be able to fix for less than 150. i went through the same thing and mine cost about 100 to fix, 'course i bought mine for 475 so you're getting a far better deal.

again, (insert cajun voice) YOU CAN DO IT !

Yes, I've already spoke to Paul about it. He qouted me a very fair price to fix it.
Can I ask you what exactly the problem was with your unit? Maybe it will help me with mine.
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2003, 03:45:59 PM »
Well, I bought it!
Someone mentioned somethings about an internal fuse or circuit breaker on these? Does anyone know about that?
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2003, 03:54:10 PM »
there is an internal fuse... in the ad500e it was fairly easy to get to and replace.

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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2003, 03:26:02 PM »
sorry for the d-lay  :P

mine had electrical problems.  paul replaced the flux capacitor and johnson rods... he actually replaced a few diodes and i believe 2 fuses, and it's been perfect ever since.

cograts on your recent purchase !  when you have back problems in a year or two you'll know what did it ;)
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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2003, 04:06:27 PM »
One of the voltage regulators was sparking, so I ordered a replacement for it. Some of the components in the thing are hard to find. They didn't just use "off the shelf" components. If it doesn't work right after I replace that voltage regulator, I'll send it to Paul.
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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2003, 02:51:11 PM »
Keep us posted! I am interested to hear how this turns out.

Thanks,

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Re:AD1K worth it?
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2003, 12:29:02 PM »
Keep us posted! I am interested to hear how this turns out.

Thanks,

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I replaced one of the voltage regulators and it was still sparking.
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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

Recordings on the LMA: http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/ChuckM
Recording website & blog: http://www.timebetweenthenotes.com

 

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