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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2007, 01:45:16 PM »
nice deck.
way to go Sony.  finally...
I dont care what media it takes.  nor that it offers phantom or balanced input.

any ol' Denecke PS2 or any other outboard phantom w/a little soldering action..and viola, phantom over 3.5mm.

I like it.
Now we are back to only a couple of choices of preamp and / or A/D boxes.
:-/
v3, mm3, mytek.
anything else?  that doesn't have a flash card or hdd in it all ready ?

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2007, 01:48:54 PM »
I wonder if those capsules could be cut out and ...extended.
 >:D

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2007, 02:10:23 PM »
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2007, 02:35:23 PM »
I wonder if those capsules could be cut out and ...extended.
 >:D

So the capsules look different between the D1 and D50 (D1's are longer).
That's too bad, as I've heard the D1's capsules sound incredible. Here's
hoping the D50 on-board mics sound as good or better.

Believe it or not, Sony can pull off great mics. My friend has a sony high-end single point
stereo mic from 10 years ago (not sure the model, but it was very expensive at the time),
and it is clear, clean, transparant, natural sounding, has a great stereo image, and
could easily go against any of those high-end german mics.

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2007, 02:38:27 PM »
no doubt.
there are some sony condensers out there as well that are pretty bad ass.

this deck sounds good. the dedicated PCBs for each "layer" of its features, PS, ADC, PRE , LINE
I love it!
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2007, 04:40:51 PM »
v3, mm3, mytek.
:-/
anything else?  that doesn't have a flash card or hdd in it all ready ?

there are still plenty of choices for outboard pre's and/or A/D boxes...

in addition to the V3, MiniMe, Mytek, we've got the V2, AD2k+, Aerco, Sonosax, SD MP-2, m148, m248, beyer mv100, ua-5, church audio pre, Neve Portico, etc, etc.  This is all just off the top of my head.  I'm sure that there are more.

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2007, 05:10:41 PM »
v3, mm3, mytek.
:-/
anything else?  that doesn't have a flash card or hdd in it all ready ?

there are still plenty of choices for outboard pre's and/or A/D boxes...

in addition to the V3, MiniMe, Mytek, we've got the V2, AD2k+, Aerco, Sonosax, SD MP-2, m148, m248, beyer mv100, ua-5, church audio pre, Neve Portico, etc, etc.  This is all just off the top of my head.  I'm sure that there are more.

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2007, 05:18:47 PM »
i was thinking digital input only...

after all the B&M we did about a perfect bit bucket...
by the time one comes out, outboard A/Ds are all but passe'

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2007, 05:39:13 PM »
From the manual it appears that computer transfers are simple
usb mass storage compliant. No Sonic Stage! :D

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2007, 06:03:08 PM »
As a long time MD user way back when, alls I can say is,
where the hell was this unit 2 years ago when I made the jump to a solid state recorder???

When I went to a microtrack, I really missed all of the onboard editing
features like divide/join/move/rename of tracks. I missed the MD's LONG
battery life. I missed the ruggedness. And more than anything, I missed
the rock solid reliability of MD.

And you know what, it looks like all of those lovely features of MD are on the PCM-D50!

I bet many of the the non-stealth MD users still clinging to their MD's waiting
to jump to solid-state will finally take the plunge with this unit. $599 is still a little high (maybe
not so bad after discount and factoring in 4gig built in memory), but it's clearly
got the goods over the cheaper units if it's anything like the PCM-D1.
This unit could do well!

Welcome back Sony, we've missed you!

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2007, 06:16:33 PM »
Just got quoted ~$490 with late November expected arrival.

Not likely D50 has even close to quality mic pre in D1. 

Specs give NO preamp mic input data, ONLY LINE input-to-line output specs of 93 dB S/N, which seems not so great. but no reference at what output level or if weighted measurements, so too vague to know for certain the meaning of 93 dB.

So far, compact, long 12 hours running time on 4 AA, track mark/split ability, and classy refined easy manual controls is best news. 

Expect the nice attached mics makes this a good 'all-in-one-deck' for on-the-spot good quality recording deck for interview, sound designers, musicians, those tapers looking for a low profile, affordable deck that does at least okay for starters or as a backup unit. 

Definitely good news for those looking for that elusive moderate cost, small size 24/96K 'bit-bucket' alternative to the Microtrack.  :clapping:
« Last Edit: October 04, 2007, 06:18:39 PM by guysonic »
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #56 on: October 04, 2007, 06:19:08 PM »
Does anyone on this board run the D1?  Any samples on LMA or otherwise?

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #57 on: October 04, 2007, 07:24:07 PM »
Does anyone on this board run the D1?  Any samples on LMA or otherwise?

A sightless customer who was first to point out excellent preamplifier on D1 deck sent me two interesting great sounding D1 recordings done on an 'outrigger vacation' in the Islands this year.

Mic input using very low output HRTF arrayed mics. 

Both recordings are totally low level ambient sounds while in the small boat, first is 5 min, 12 megs,  but shorter 1.5 min, 3.3 meg second file has a great fireworks finale.

74.208.10.48/mp3/outriger.mp3

74.208.10.48/mp3/boomsfin.mp3
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2007, 04:46:54 PM »
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2007, 05:54:43 PM »
http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/DisplayModel?m=0&p=10&sp=83&id=89166

looks like just a phantom power supply w/ a 1/8 analog out.



This thing would be the ticket if its paired with the Edirol R09!  Runs on 4 AA batteries.  Tiny too (2.8" x 1.5" x 5.2").

Too bad its over priced at $499.00   :(

 

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