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1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« on: December 18, 2010, 06:01:42 PM »
Need to record the line-out output (1/4") from the soundboard, to the "mic" input on my digital-recorder. Would a simple adapter (1/4" to 1/8") work correctly? What else would I need to be able to record without interference? Thank you for any input.

Pictured: Microphone, Soundboard with Line-out, Digital Recorder with Mic input.

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 06:14:53 PM »
Need to record the line-out output (1/4") from the soundboard, to the "mic" input on my digital-recorder. Would a simple adapter (1/4" to 1/8") work correctly? What else would I need to be able to record without interference? Thank you for any input.

Pictured: Microphone, Soundboard with Line-out, Digital Recorder with Mic input.

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Is this a trick question :) "Need to record the line-out output (1/4") from the soundboard, to the "mic" input on my digital-recorder"

Not a good idea.. You need to go line output of your mixer into the LINE INPUT of your recorder even if you do have a line input you may still need to attenuate or greatly reduce the level. If you cant do that you will need an attenuator of at least 40 db maybe more to avoid overloading that mic input.

Mic input expects a -50 to -30 db signal, Line input Pro expects +4 Line input consumer -10 db I would say that mixer is going to be -10 your recorders mic input will be overloaded quite easily unless you can turn down the level substantially before it gets to your recorder. Turning down on the recorder it self will not help in this situation as you will most likely overload the first stage amp long before you can bring down the volume with the record level on your recorder.



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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 06:33:01 PM »
so basically.. that recorder won't work cause it only has a "mic" input.

Can you recommend a recorder I could use to digitally record from the line-out of that soundboard? Could I use a 1/4 to 1/8 into a laptops 1/8 input? Or should I buy another recorder? Eventually, the goal is to produce video of these lectures, but we are starting with getting the audio correct first, and making it available until we raise the funds for video as well.

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 06:40:38 PM »
so basically.. that recorder won't work cause it only has a "mic" input.

Can you recommend a recorder I could use to digitally record from the line-out of that soundboard? Could I use a 1/4 to 1/8 into a laptops 1/8 input? Or should I buy another recorder? Eventually, the goal is to produce video of these lectures, but we are starting with getting the audio correct first, and making it available until we raise the funds for video as well.

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If your goal is to produce video of these lectures and you are only using one camera get a camera that has the ability to take a line input. Most of these cameras are expensive.. The other cheaper option would be to dump the audio into a computer not a laptop.. I have never had good luck with laptop recording.. Get a card like a M-audio FAST TRACK PRO and go 1/4 to 1/4 in. You just have to use a time slate for the beginning of the video and audio to be able to sync it up on the computer in editing. Or like I said get a camera with line inputs.. I dont know anything about cameras but I know there are lots of people here that do.

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 10:18:54 PM »
Eventually we will, but for now..

I simply need the cheapest option to record the audio from the line-out on the soundboard. Is there a cheaper recorder that has line-in?

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 02:15:30 AM »
Tascam DR-07 will do everything you need it to, and will be much MUCH better quality than that digital voice recorder you currently have.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/599284-REG/Tascam_DR_07_DR_07_Portable_Digital_Audio.html

The other option would be a Microtrack II, though it is pricier. It has two TRS inputs, so you could go straight from your soundboard into the recorder without the Y cable. Just make sure to get TRS cables when using it and not TS.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/515484-REG/M_Audio_9900_52278_00_MicroTrack_II_Professional.html

Personally I'd go with the Tascam.

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 12:58:19 PM »
perfect. I'm going to order it tonight, then I'll just need a 1/4" to 3.5" adapter cable, correct?

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2010, 04:21:37 PM »
Correct.

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2010, 04:26:25 PM »
I forgot to mention, youll also need an SD card to record to. These can be found for very cheap at any electronics store/Wal Mart.

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2010, 04:28:32 PM »
want to make sure this is right, before I order it: ordering these two things...

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correct?

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2010, 04:30:50 PM »
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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2010, 07:25:49 PM »
?? There are attenuator patch cords that can do this--they go from an (unbalanced) line output to an (unbalanced) mike-level input via resistors that are built into the cable. The attenuation is usually about 50 dB.

Why are people trying to get this person to buy a new recorder? Did I overlook something? (It's been known to happen.)

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music > microphones > a recorder of some sort

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 07:35:41 PM »
?? There are attenuator patch cords that can do this--they go from an (unbalanced) line output to an (unbalanced) mike-level input via resistors that are built into the cable. The attenuation is usually about 50 dB.

Why are people trying to get this person to buy a new recorder? Did I overlook something? (It's been known to happen.)

--best regards
I think the general consensus was the recorder he was using just wasn't that great. I could definitely see your suggestion as better since he wants to upgrade this system later anyway, why buy a recorder when a different cable would "make due" for now? I think you're right- for now just get the attenuated cable.
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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2010, 07:35:56 AM »
depends on whose money it is, I suppose...?

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Re: 1/4 to 1/8 line-out to mic input
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2010, 07:28:10 PM »
Why are people trying to get this person to buy a new recorder? Did I overlook something? (It's been known to happen.)

I've learned a ton from reading your posts, but from the picture he posted it looks like his recorder is a $50 Sony voice recorder. If this is true, wouldn't you agree he should get a better recorder?
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