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vinyl rips.. to normalize or volume boost
« on: September 05, 2015, 11:32:46 AM »
I've been ripping vinyl tt>pre>V3>UA-5 @24/96

Using Wavelab 5 to record, soundforge 9 to remove clicks/pops and boost volume

I've always like what boosting the volume does more than normalizing..Normalization always sounds a little compressed

Question is, what's difference between the two?
When is it right to use normalization, when's the right time to boost volume?


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Re: vinyl rips.. to normalize or volume boost
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2015, 12:28:04 PM »
On some programs there is no difference...but if you hear something changing - the normalize is probably an RMS type...which does compress a bit.

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Re: vinyl rips.. to normalize or volume boost
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2015, 01:55:11 PM »
Here's a bit of info about normalizing

http://www.learndigitalaudio.com/blog/normalize-audio

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Re: vinyl rips.. to normalize or volume boost
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2015, 09:54:23 AM »
Really helpful, thank you guys..
The blog's explaining that peak normalization and volume boost are the same effect. RMS is where the compressions coming from.
noted in either case not ideal to change your recordings
Though when making the vinyl rips i prefer to stay around -6db while recording. you know that sometimes occasional spikes occur.
I usually end up giving it another 3db before tracking it out, but to me it only sounds better.



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Re: vinyl rips.. to normalize or volume boost
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2015, 09:18:35 AM »
why not bypass the Phono Preamp, use the V3 on Mic in and apply the RIAA curve digitally?
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Re: vinyl rips.. to normalize or volume boost
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2015, 07:20:15 AM »


No reason not to, but one question: Does the cartridge have to be grounded out at the very next connection (pre-amp/receiver) or can it be done anywhere?
example, If the cartridge is ground on my receiver, and the signal is sent directly to the V3 from the cartridge would that separation matter or no? 

One great thing about using the V3 as a pre also is using the gain/trim to have easy control of recording levels, I doubt the riaa curve would even need to be applied afterwards..   
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