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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2004, 04:23:23 AM »
Very interesting.  So what price am I looking at for all this stuff?  Here's another question.  What's this UA5 stuff everyone is talking about?   :help:  :headphones:

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2004, 04:31:13 AM »
well, there are alot of us tapers who tape in open taping situations running the Edirol UA5. this was a product originally made for laptop taping. then the Oade Bros (oade.com) came out with a mod to make it a standalone device(so it would work without a laptop and still work with it)

they also came out with 2 preamp mods for the ua5, the warm mod and the presence mod. these modded devices from oade are much better than the stock ones

the mod to allow standalone use (we here refer to it as the "digi-mod") is easily available, and directions are in the archive section. it is very simple to do yourself to have a decent piece of gear for less than 300 bucks, as you would ahve the mic pre and a/d in one box

oade sells the digi mod onyl boxes or you can get the preamp mod and the digi mod at once, but they will not mod any ua5s that werent bought fromt hem to start with

hope that sheds some light on the ua5 for you! i once ran a warm mod ua5 and loved it, but i just had to upgrade, i now run an Apogee Mini-Me

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2004, 04:32:04 AM »
and stealthing, like you will be doing, wont work with the ua5 i would say. it is a little too big
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2004, 04:34:45 AM »
So, I guess I have the JB3, and the ad20 suggested so far.  What else would I need?  (Thanks for all the help along the way.)  :headphones:

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2004, 04:35:59 AM »
prices:
jb3 refurbished on ebay:179$
sound pros mics/battery boxs prices will vary beetween new and used

i would reccomend, with your budget that you try to buy everything used, especially the mics/battery box

used stealth mics for sale:
http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/Forum/dcboard.phpaz=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=615&mesg_id=615&page=

i have never heard.used these mics and do not know the seller

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2004, 04:41:04 AM »
well those arent your only options, but they are definantly a good start.

you would need all you cables, depending on mic/battery box situation to go into the ad20, and a toslink > mini optical cable to go into the jb3

you could always get a set of mini mics/battery box, and a jb3 and then later down the raod (when your budget allows add an ad20 or something similar

the second mics mentioned on that page for sale are highly regarded mini mics, i ran some similar mics to those (audio technica 933s)

you will be wanting omni mics by the way, either mics with switcheable caps or fixed caps, you will definantly want some omni caps for your stealthing

my pleasure to help! we were all newbies once before! and this site helped me out more than anywhere else could have, so you gotta give it back!

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2004, 04:43:42 AM »
The JB3 seems very convenient as opposed to MD decks, but now I'm having thoughts about the price of all this stuff.  I'm looking for decent JB3s on ebay right now.   :headphones:

EDIT - I see a few great priced units direct from Creative Labs.  I'm still undecided though.  Heh
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2004, 04:51:38 AM »
the convinience of a jb3 is key, 3 hour record time with seamless next track, mean that you can record for as many hours as the batterys would last (way more than most any shows except festivals) and you are talkign switching discs in a md deck every 74 minutes.... which is causing splits in your recordings and lost time in the recording!

you can transfer you recordings to your pc quick and easy with usb or firewire with the jb3

with a md deck, you are going to ahve to have some kind of a soundcard, hopefully something better than your stock soundcard, and using a portable md recorder you would only be able to do analog out of your md > analog into your pc, unless you spend a couple extra hundred bucks on a home md unit with digital output and a digital soundcard with optical input
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2004, 04:53:49 AM »
So, I'm guessing that the JB3 would be ultimately better?  Sure seems like it to me.  Heh.   :headphones:
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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2004, 04:57:35 AM »
well ive ran both, and would say without a dought i like the jb3 better

but for size and stealth issues the md deck is smaller and tougher. the jb3 is exactly the same size/dimensions as a portable cd player, but still very stealthable i think

you just have to consider what you are prepared to stick down your pants to get through security, i know some kids here who put alot of stuff down there and get away with it night after night

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2004, 04:59:24 AM »
I've read up on techniques involving getting the units into the show and recording.  Basically all I need to do is get equipment and learn how to use it.   :headphones:

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2004, 05:09:31 AM »
you are sure to get some other positive feedback tomorrow when the "day crew" is online. im just a night person here myself. im sure you will get alot of feedback regarding the mics/battery box/a-d's from the people who actually stealth. i myself tape from a designated taping section in a open taping environment, so im not a great help for stealth info!

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2004, 05:13:08 AM »
I'd say you did a great job.  T+ if I could.  Thanks for everything.  I need some sleep as it's 3:15 am and I got up at 7:00 am yesterday.  Have a great night.   :headphones:

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2004, 10:15:43 AM »
Exactly how much are you willing to spend? And no chance you're getting a soundboard patch at Metallica.

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Re:So, where do I start?
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2004, 07:48:38 PM »
$380 American looks to be my max. :headphones:

 

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