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Title: V3 battery
Post by: Rob D. on August 10, 2016, 06:29:44 PM
I've been using two Impact (BPD-8000) batteries to power my V3 for about 8 years now. They've recently become unreliable but I've gotten my monies worth no doubt. What is a replacement recommendation?
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: fsulloway on August 10, 2016, 09:06:28 PM
You could use the same batteries as you do for your 744 if you want to. That's what I use for my V3. Just wire your cable for the V3 to a sled like the 744 batts slide in to. Very simple to wire up or you could have one of our TS cable guys do it. For me it was a no brainer since I had a few batteries for my 722 and they're relatively inexpensive.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/fsulloway/Taping%20Gear/20131109_1627201.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/fsulloway/media/Taping%20Gear/20131109_1627201.jpg.html)
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Brian G on August 11, 2016, 10:11:47 AM
I have been using a Naztech BP15000 with my V3.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: dactylus on August 13, 2016, 10:19:16 AM
Where did you obtain the 744-like sled?

I too have a Naztech PB15000 to use with my V3.


You could use the same batteries as you do for your 744 if you want to. That's what I use for my V3. Just wire your cable for the V3 to a sled like the 744 batts slide in to. Very simple to wire up or you could have one of our TS cable guys do it. For me it was a no brainer since I had a few batteries for my 722 and they're relatively inexpensive.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/fsulloway/Taping%20Gear/20131109_1627201.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/fsulloway/media/Taping%20Gear/20131109_1627201.jpg.html)

Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: fsulloway on August 13, 2016, 06:35:37 PM
The sled comes from the wall chargers used to charge those type batteries. Got mine off ebay for less than $5. The sled attaches to the part that sticks in the wall. You unscrew the back and solder your cable to the contacts. Wish I had taken pics but it was quite simple and I'm not that handy with an iron.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: dactylus on August 14, 2016, 11:30:30 AM
The sled comes from the wall chargers used to charge those type batteries. Got mine off ebay for less than $5. The sled attaches to the part that sticks in the wall. You unscrew the back and solder your cable to the contacts. Wish I had taken pics but it was quite simple and I'm not that handy with an iron.

Thanks!
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Rob D. on August 16, 2016, 01:12:56 PM
Thanks for all the recommendations! I ended up buying Naztech BP15000 for $83.50 on eBay. Now I need the get the interconnect between the battery and the V3. Naturally, the one I've used for the Impact batteries won't fit. It's been many years now but I think Maybe Ted (or Darktrain?) made it? Where has others gotten their's?
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Brian G on August 16, 2016, 01:42:30 PM
Thanks for all the recommendations! I ended up buying Naztech BP15000 for $83.50 on eBay. Now I need the get the interconnect between the battery and the V3. Naturally, the one I've used for the Impact batteries won't fit. It's been many years now but I think Maybe Ted (or Darktrain?) made it? Where has others gotten their's?

Ted made mine.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jb63 on September 13, 2016, 03:31:52 PM
The Memorex DVD battery I use for my V3 which is heavy as hell has finally given up holding a charge. How much does that 744 sled weigh and how long does the charge last?
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jb63 on November 20, 2016, 07:26:56 PM
Before i look for another DVD to power my V3, has anyone found anything smaller they recommend?

Thanks!
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: fsulloway on November 22, 2016, 05:43:06 PM
The Memorex DVD battery I use for my V3 which is heavy as hell has finally given up holding a charge. How much does that 744 sled weigh and how long does the charge last?

sled is super light, less than 10 oz I'm sure. Runtime depends on the battery. I use a 7.4v 7200 mah battery and I run it for 3hr shows no problem. Haven't really tested it to see how long it would go.

here's a pic of the battery, sled, and a Tekkeon for the size comparison.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/fsulloway/gear/th_20161122_173325.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/fsulloway/media/gear/20161122_173325.jpg.html)
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jb63 on November 22, 2016, 11:23:47 PM
Thanks!
I will now start the troublesome task of hunting down those parts!
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: fsulloway on November 23, 2016, 07:32:09 AM
Thanks!
I will now start the troublesome task of hunting down those parts!

Less than 10 min on ebay and you should have batteries and a sled. Tgakidis or darktrain can make the cable.


this should work. You'll need a second charger to charge your batteries though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kastar-Battery-and-Normal-Charger-Kit-for-Sony-NP-F975-NP-F970-NP-F960-NP-F950-/252592505919?var=&hash=item3acfafc43f:m:mueSS7gcqzE9IRqNMNnL05Q

here's a few pics of how it works.
Here's the unit all together.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/fsulloway/gear/th_s-l1600c.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/fsulloway/media/gear/s-l1600c.jpg.html)

The sled slides out.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/fsulloway/gear/th_s-l1600.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/fsulloway/media/gear/s-l1600.jpg.html)

with the sled out and flipped over.
take out 4 screws. there's two wires in there that connect to the two silver tabs you see in the pic. The tabs will be removed.
you'll take your cable that goes from the V3 and solder positive to pos and neg to neg.
I filled the case with some hot glue to stabilize the cable then put the cover back on the sled.
I'm sure one of the cable guys would do this all for you if you shipped them the sled.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/fsulloway/gear/th_s-l1600b.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/fsulloway/media/gear/s-l1600b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jb63 on November 24, 2016, 11:12:42 PM
Wow! I will jump on that and try to make one!

Thanks! Thanks! Thanks!
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jb63 on December 01, 2016, 07:06:28 PM
So I ordered those parts and batteries and they arrived today. I figured there would be no way that I'd be able to pull this off but it seems pretty straightforward. There are even symbols for pos and neg on the front by the poles.

Its a pretty bulky form factor compared to the DVD battery when trying to cram it into a bag with the V3 but certainly less weight. Kind of like the difference between a CAugly and a CA9200. One fits better but its bigger.

Here's my question:
Do I keep the square piece that's soldered to the connections or remove it?
I assume that it is for the charger part and not important, but who knows?


Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jb63 on December 05, 2016, 03:02:08 PM
Well I failed at this. I'll post pictures, but either I had a faulty wire or the wrong battery but after finishing I could get no power. The V3 still works, so I didn't fry anything. Love that giant heavy V3!
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jb63 on January 25, 2017, 01:28:01 PM
Have a look here. What have I done wrong, potentially, that makes this not work? Is it possible that my cable has just gone bad? Here's the battery and the soldered connection, but I get no power to the V3.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: dnsacks on January 25, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
probably stupid questions, but have you used a voltmeter to a) confirm the battery is providing power and b) confirm that the sled is receiving power from the battery (You could tap the soldier joints with the voltmeter probes).  If so, confirm that the cable connector (that plugs into the V3) is getting power and that polarity is not reversed. 
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: fsulloway on January 26, 2017, 08:56:11 PM
From the best I can tell it's wired up correctly assuming the blk wire with white stripe is in fact the positive. Here's another vote for using a volt meter. You'd have your answer in a minute.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: H₂O on January 26, 2017, 09:36:31 PM
Another stupid question - Is the V3 a 6v or 12v and have you verified it is set to 6v?

If the V3 has been set to operate at 12v it will not turn on if the voltage is less then about 10v or so (maybe in the 9.5v range) - there is a procedure on how to change the voltage setting (used to be posted on the Grace website)

Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: fsulloway on January 27, 2017, 12:57:02 PM
Duh. didn't think of that Richard. Yep, so look at your old dvd battery and see what voltage it's set on. If it's set on 12v then these are the instructions to change it.

http://www.gracedesign.com/support/v3_voltage_calibration.pdf
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jb63 on January 27, 2017, 06:14:32 PM
I love this place!
I have 2 DVD batteries and regularly swap them between the V3 and R44, so I guess I'd better learn some more stuff!
This as my attempt at trying something new... guess I learned the old fashioned way! At least I have not yet fried my V3!
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: MULETAPER on July 11, 2017, 02:02:06 PM
can someone tell me what voltage they run on the Natchez? mines a 6v V3
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Hypnocracy on July 11, 2017, 03:09:36 PM
I know nothing about Natchez units, but, always ran my 6v V2 with 7.2v Tekkeons so as not too stare at the low voltage light that would stay on when I had the Tekkeon at 6v...
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jbell on July 11, 2017, 04:12:57 PM
9V will work!

can someone tell me what voltage they run on the Natchez? mines a 6v V3
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: mccordo on July 11, 2017, 09:26:15 PM
can someone tell me what voltage they run on the Natchez? mines a 6v V3

I have a 6v V2 that I've run off of 9v Anker and DVD batteries for the last 3 years with no issues.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: taperjeff on July 13, 2017, 05:32:14 PM
can someone tell me what voltage they run on the Natchez? mines a 6v V3

I have a 6v V2 that I've run off of 9v Anker and DVD batteries for the last 3 years with no issues.

Is this the Anker battery you use? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00935L44E/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3BEGVST7CUOVR&colid=MG7E9XCBJ0BY
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: mccordo on July 13, 2017, 06:02:08 PM
can someone tell me what voltage they run on the Natchez? mines a 6v V3

I have a 6v V2 that I've run off of 9v Anker and DVD batteries for the last 3 years with no issues.

Is this the Anker battery you use? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00935L44E/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3BEGVST7CUOVR&colid=MG7E9XCBJ0BY

I use a Anker 2nd Gen Astro Pro2 20000mAh, but I just checked and it looks like it is no longer available. I bought it about 2 years ago, but I'm sure Anker has released an updated version since then.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Rob D. on May 07, 2018, 07:05:59 PM
Duh. didn't think of that Richard. Yep, so look at your old dvd battery and see what voltage it's set on. If it's set on 12v then these are the instructions to change it.

http://www.gracedesign.com/support/v3_voltage_calibration.pdf

Count me in as another Naztech BP15000 user that can't get more than three hours from it after not even two years  >:(

I recently bought the PowerOark 50000mAh that feeds 12v and 20v. I used to feed 9v to my V3 from the Naztech but will switching the jumpers on the V3 to 12v be necessary?
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: kindms on May 08, 2018, 07:55:18 AM
Duh. didn't think of that Richard. Yep, so look at your old dvd battery and see what voltage it's set on. If it's set on 12v then these are the instructions to change it.

http://www.gracedesign.com/support/v3_voltage_calibration.pdf

Count me in as another Naztech BP15000 user that can't get more than three hours from it after not even two years  >:(

I recently bought the PowerOark 50000mAh that feeds 12v and 20v. I used to feed 9v to my V3 from the Naztech but will switching the jumpers on the V3 to 12v be necessary?

if mem serves correctly it has more to do with when the low batt light kicks on etc
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Rob D. on May 08, 2018, 11:00:09 AM
Duh. didn't think of that Richard. Yep, so look at your old dvd battery and see what voltage it's set on. If it's set on 12v then these are the instructions to change it.

http://www.gracedesign.com/support/v3_voltage_calibration.pdf

Count me in as another Naztech BP15000 user that can't get more than three hours from it after not even two years  >:(

I recently bought the PowerOark 50000mAh that feeds 12v and 20v. I used to feed 9v to my V3 from the Naztech but will switching the jumpers on the V3 to 12v be necessary?

if mem serves correctly it has more to do with when the low batt light kicks on etc

That's my understanding as well. It looks easy-peasy to toggle the jumpers but the manual says "These adjustments should be made only by qualified service
personnel
"   ;)
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Brian G on July 10, 2018, 09:52:37 AM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: scb on July 11, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Brian G on July 11, 2018, 12:03:30 PM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price

I own both....The Rav is a very solid build. The Talentcell feels cheap in comparison. I paid $65 for the Talentcell, where are you seeing the 72W version for $50?  For that price I would buy another.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: kindms on July 11, 2018, 12:10:21 PM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price

I own both....The Rav is a very solid build. The Talentcell feels cheap in comparison. I paid $65 for the Talentcell, where are you seeing the 72W version for $50?  For that price I would buy another.

i have 2 of these Brian

https://www.amazon.com/MAXOAK-50000mAh-Portable-External-Notebook-Most/dp/B00YP823NA

They come up at $99 all the time.

50000mAh/185Wh
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Brian G on July 11, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price

I own both....The Rav is a very solid build. The Talentcell feels cheap in comparison. I paid $65 for the Talentcell, where are you seeing the 72W version for $50?  For that price I would buy another.

i have 2 of these Brian

https://www.amazon.com/MAXOAK-50000mAh-Portable-External-Notebook-Most/dp/B00YP823NA

They come up at $99 all the time.

50000mAh/185Wh

So my V3 is a 6V unit. If I feed 12V wont it get extremely hot...I know feeding 9V to it gets pretty hot.
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: kindms on July 11, 2018, 01:02:30 PM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price

I own both....The Rav is a very solid build. The Talentcell feels cheap in comparison. I paid $65 for the Talentcell, where are you seeing the 72W version for $50?  For that price I would buy another.

i have 2 of these Brian

https://www.amazon.com/MAXOAK-50000mAh-Portable-External-Notebook-Most/dp/B00YP823NA

They come up at $99 all the time.

50000mAh/185Wh

So my V3 is a 6V unit. If I feed 12V wont it get extremely hot...I know feeding 9V to it gets pretty hot.

My V3 is also set to 6v it does get pretty warm in the bag but only after running it a long while. But the V3 is just a jumper in the unit unlike the v2
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Brian G on July 11, 2018, 01:48:33 PM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price

I own both....The Rav is a very solid build. The Talentcell feels cheap in comparison. I paid $65 for the Talentcell, where are you seeing the 72W version for $50?  For that price I would buy another.

i have 2 of these Brian

https://www.amazon.com/MAXOAK-50000mAh-Portable-External-Notebook-Most/dp/B00YP823NA

They come up at $99 all the time.

50000mAh/185Wh

So my V3 is a 6V unit. If I feed 12V wont it get extremely hot...I know feeding 9V to it gets pretty hot.

My V3 is also set to 6v it does get pretty warm in the bag but only after running it a long while. But the V3 is just a jumper in the unit unlike the v2

Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: jerryfreak on July 11, 2018, 02:04:02 PM
ive got a pair of 4.4AH 7.4V packs from batteryspace with a smart charger that i bought when i had a mytek, would work great for a V3 if anybodys interested. they are waterproof wrapped with the coiled cords (i think they were designed for bike lights)

batts and charger cost me $130, make me an offer
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: scb on July 11, 2018, 11:02:14 PM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price

I own both....The Rav is a very solid build. The Talentcell feels cheap in comparison. I paid $65 for the Talentcell, where are you seeing the 72W version for $50?  For that price I would buy another.

it's $33.99 here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ME3ZH7C/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Brian G on July 12, 2018, 12:40:41 PM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price

I own both....The Rav is a very solid build. The Talentcell feels cheap in comparison. I paid $65 for the Talentcell, where are you seeing the 72W version for $50?  For that price I would buy another.

it's $33.99 here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ME3ZH7C/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thats a different one than the 72W, no?
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: scb on July 12, 2018, 03:36:51 PM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price

I own both....The Rav is a very solid build. The Talentcell feels cheap in comparison. I paid $65 for the Talentcell, where are you seeing the 72W version for $50?  For that price I would buy another.

it's $33.99 here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ME3ZH7C/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thats a different one than the 72W, no?

6000maH * 12v = 72wh
Title: Re: V3 battery
Post by: Brian G on July 13, 2018, 08:15:56 AM
RAV23000 is back in stock on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/External-RAVPower-23000mAh-Portable-Smartphones/dp/B00HFMUBYG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531230650&sr=8-5&keywords=9v+battery+power+bank

I use it with my V3.

it's only an 85wh, where the talentcell is a 72wh for half the price

I own both....The Rav is a very solid build. The Talentcell feels cheap in comparison. I paid $65 for the Talentcell, where are you seeing the 72W version for $50?  For that price I would buy another.

it's $33.99 here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ME3ZH7C/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thats a different one than the 72W, no?

6000maH * 12v = 72wh
Ok thanks. I guess I was confused since the listing for the larger one also says 72W.