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Title: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: tim in jersey on June 11, 2018, 01:17:25 AM
Old Thread: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=151303.0
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rocksuitcase on June 11, 2018, 01:31:09 AM
bump to join thread
clamp pron:
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 11, 2018, 01:56:09 AM
I think it's about time I join this thread, now that I own a clamp (Manfrotto superclamp).

My first clampage ----> https://taperssection.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=186708.0;attach=131311;image
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: tim in jersey on June 11, 2018, 02:08:52 AM
Not critiqueing, but a few wraps of e-tape on the 2' runs of Schoeps active cables have made a world of difference for me. I can deploy in about a minute and bust down in less time than that... And, if I plan ahead, I can actually  :cheers: with friends...
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: tim in jersey on June 11, 2018, 02:19:07 AM
I think it's about time I join this thread, now that I own a clamp (Manfrotto superclamp).

My first clampage ----> https://taperssection.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=186708.0;attach=131311;image

Welcome! This is a DIY thread, AFAIC. Old salts and new eyes are always welcome...
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: morst on June 11, 2018, 04:28:27 AM

I'll put in a plug for using a safety cable, (or safety bond in UK) whenever hanging gear over people's heads or where it could crash down and hurt something if the clamp failed.
Here is a link to the safety cable used on what has become a standard stage lighting fixture, the "LEKO" which weighs a lot more than any microphone setup I've seen.

We can use their 5:1 safety ratio as a guide though 10:1 is not stupid. If your mics weigh 5 lbs with the clamp, get a "safety bond" that can hold 25 lbs and secure it running underneath the cables so it doesn't pinch them in case it needs to function.


https://www.etcconnect.com/Support/Articles/Source-Four-Safety-Cable.aspx (https://www.etcconnect.com/Support/Articles/Source-Four-Safety-Cable.aspx)


>This cable is a 30" long 1/8" diameter black wire rope cable with snap clamp fitted.The safety ratio of the cable is 5:1
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 11, 2018, 05:04:48 AM

I'll put in a plug for using a safety cable, (or safety bond in UK) whenever hanging gear over people's heads or where it could crash down and hurt something if the clamp failed.
Here is a link to the safety cable used on what has become a standard stage lighting fixture, the "LEKO" which weighs a lot more than any microphone setup I've seen.

We can use their 5:1 safety ratio as a guide though 10:1 is not stupid. If your mics weigh 5 lbs with the clamp, get a "safety bond" that can hold 25 lbs and secure it running underneath the cables so it doesn't pinch them in case it needs to function.


https://www.etcconnect.com/Support/Articles/Source-Four-Safety-Cable.aspx (https://www.etcconnect.com/Support/Articles/Source-Four-Safety-Cable.aspx)


>This cable is a 30" long 1/8" diameter black wire rope cable with snap clamp fitted.The safety ratio of the cable is 5:1

Thank you for this. I was concerned the entire night about the clamp failing and someone getting hurt below. Getting a safety cable rated to a much higher weight for if I attach my soon-to-arrive extension pole from a balcony.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rocksuitcase on June 11, 2018, 11:19:12 AM
ycoop, I have 2 of those listed above, nothing we (amateur recordists) typically do mic/boom stand wise would require more than the 5:1 ratio unless you are running tube LD's. It looks "small" and is not very expensive, but will do the job.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rigpimp on June 11, 2018, 11:37:52 AM
I have a Bogen 3373 which is the 7' light stand.  I hacked the legs a little to give it a smaller footprint which sacrifices max height as well as stability a little. 

I want to clamp my Canon Vixia XA10 onto it for a static shot.  This is gonna make it more top heavy than it already is. 

Beside lowering the stand's center of gravity and taping the thing down does anyone have any tips on how to clamp the camera to my stand?  I have Rowis and a Superclamp but cannot get the camera out far enough away from the stand, or it is at the wrong angle.  Personally, I'd prefer the former since it weighs less.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: if_then_else on June 11, 2018, 11:51:48 AM
I have a Bogen 3373 which is the 7' light stand.  I hacked the legs a little to give it a smaller footprint which sacrifices max height as well as stability a little. 

I want to clamp my Canon Vixia XA10 onto it for a static shot.  This is gonna make it more top heavy than it already is. 

Beside lowering the stand's center of gravity and taping the thing down does anyone have any tips on how to clamp the camera to my stand?  I have Rowis and a Superclamp but cannot get the camera out far enough away from the stand, or it is at the wrong angle.  Personally, I'd prefer the former since it weighs less.

A magic arm / friction arm like this one:

:https://www.amazon.de/TARION-Edelstahl-Gelenkarm-Videoleuchte-Mikrophon/dp/B014F6G2TM/ref=pd_aw_sbs_421_of_11?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014F6G2TM&pd_rd_r=5c69c7db-6d8e-11e8-a420-1b90d2848b1e&pd_rd_w=KWahE&pd_rd_wg=OvpCf&pf_rd_i=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_p=8822005502690862456&pf_rd_r=R5Y1NH327ERCN36Y7RQM&pf_rd_s=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=Z0KJNVGB8JDC9S4PS2H4&th=1

I'm sure the same thing is available under a lot of different brand names.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rigpimp on June 11, 2018, 12:21:38 PM
A magic arm / friction arm like this one:

:https://www.amazon.de/TARION-Edelstahl-Gelenkarm-Videoleuchte-Mikrophon/dp/B014F6G2TM/ref=pd_aw_sbs_421_of_11?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014F6G2TM&pd_rd_r=5c69c7db-6d8e-11e8-a420-1b90d2848b1e&pd_rd_w=KWahE&pd_rd_wg=OvpCf&pf_rd_i=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_p=8822005502690862456&pf_rd_r=R5Y1NH327ERCN36Y7RQM&pf_rd_s=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=Z0KJNVGB8JDC9S4PS2H4&th=1

I'm sure the same thing is available under a lot of different brand names.

Cool, thanks for the fast reply!

Does that thing say it weighs 3 kilograms?  6.5 pounds?  I really only need something half that size I bet.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: if_then_else on June 11, 2018, 12:35:57 PM
A magic arm / friction arm like this one:

:https://www.amazon.de/TARION-Edelstahl-Gelenkarm-Videoleuchte-Mikrophon/dp/B014F6G2TM/ref=pd_aw_sbs_421_of_11?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014F6G2TM&pd_rd_r=5c69c7db-6d8e-11e8-a420-1b90d2848b1e&pd_rd_w=KWahE&pd_rd_wg=OvpCf&pf_rd_i=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_p=8822005502690862456&pf_rd_r=R5Y1NH327ERCN36Y7RQM&pf_rd_s=mobile-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=Z0KJNVGB8JDC9S4PS2H4&th=1

I'm sure the same thing is available under a lot of different brand names.

Cool, thanks for the fast reply!

Does that thing say it weighs 3 kilograms?  6.5 pounds?  I really only need something half that size I bet.

No. The maximum **load** is 3kg / 6.5 pounds which should be enough for a small camera or a camcorder.
If you need more: Manfrotto 244N (very sturdy, extremely heavy and more expensive)
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: morst on June 11, 2018, 02:08:54 PM
I want to clamp my Canon Vixia XA10 onto it for a static shot.  This is gonna make it more top heavy than it already is. 

Beside lowering the stand's center of gravity and taping the thing down does anyone have any tips on how to clamp the camera to my stand?
Boom arm and sand bags?
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 11, 2018, 07:26:51 PM
My Matthews telescopic baby stand extension arrived today (woohoo)!

I’m now trying to figure out how to attach a stereo bar with 5/8” threads to the stud. It looks like I’ll need a rapid adapter, but I can only find them going from 5/8” stud to 3/8” or 1/4” threads. Do I have to go 5/8” stud > 3/8” or 1/4” threads > threaded adapter to 5/8” threads or are there 5/8” stud > 5/8” threads rapid adapters that I just can’t find?
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: goodcooker on June 12, 2018, 09:21:27 AM
I have a Bogen 3373 which is the 7' light stand.  I hacked the legs a little to give it a smaller footprint which sacrifices max height as well as stability a little. 

I want to clamp my Canon Vixia XA10 onto it for a static shot.  This is gonna make it more top heavy than it already is. 

Beside lowering the stand's center of gravity and taping the thing down does anyone have any tips on how to clamp the camera to my stand?  I have Rowis and a Superclamp but cannot get the camera out far enough away from the stand, or it is at the wrong angle.  Personally, I'd prefer the former since it weighs less.

I use the Superclamp and short extension https://www.amazon.com/Impact-Extension-Spigot-Super-Clamp/dp/B00HCQDGI8 (https://www.amazon.com/Impact-Extension-Spigot-Super-Clamp/dp/B00HCQDGI8) then I put my pan and tilt head on the spigot. 

It gets the camera out 6 inches or so from the stand so I can use the flip screen but not so far out that it makes it wobbly.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 13, 2018, 12:09:13 PM
My Matthews telescopic baby stand extension arrived today (woohoo)!

I’m now trying to figure out how to attach a stereo bar with 5/8” threads to the stud. It looks like I’ll need a rapid adapter, but I can only find them going from 5/8” stud to 3/8” or 1/4” threads. Do I have to go 5/8” stud > 3/8” or 1/4” threads > threaded adapter to 5/8” threads or are there 5/8” stud > 5/8” threads rapid adapters that I just can’t find?

Bueller?
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rippleish20 on June 13, 2018, 12:44:53 PM
I don't see any Stud adapters offhand with 5/8". Use something to convert the stereo bar

https://www.amazon.com/CAMVATE-8-Inch-4-Inch-Adapter-Microphone/dp/B019TWBQIE/
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: vanark on June 13, 2018, 01:09:59 PM
I don't see any Stud adapters offhand with 5/8". Use something to convert the stereo bar

https://www.amazon.com/CAMVATE-8-Inch-4-Inch-Adapter-Microphone/dp/B019TWBQIE/
Several of these in my bag.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 13, 2018, 01:50:54 PM
I don't see any Stud adapters offhand with 5/8". Use something to convert the stereo bar

https://www.amazon.com/CAMVATE-8-Inch-4-Inch-Adapter-Microphone/dp/B019TWBQIE/
Several of these in my bag.

Figured this was how I’d have to go. Just wanted to check before pulling the trigger.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rigpimp on June 13, 2018, 01:55:55 PM
Figured this was how I’d have to go. Just wanted to check before pulling the trigger.

These are the ones I use. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1083039-REG/auray_ad_combo_s_5_8_to_3_8.html

You may want to buy two.  You'll undoubtedly need a 2nd one or spare down the road for something.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 13, 2018, 01:59:02 PM
Figured this was how I’d have to go. Just wanted to check before pulling the trigger.

These are the ones I use. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1083039-REG/auray_ad_combo_s_5_8_to_3_8.html

You may want to buy two.  You'll undoubtedly need a 2nd one or spare down the road for something.
CAMVATE Female 1/4"-20 to 5/8"-27 Male 2 Piece Mic Adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GWVQ022/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_OSviBbX8E2F96

Already purchased this a few weeks ago so I’m covered.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: goodcooker on June 13, 2018, 02:04:58 PM

CAMVATE Female 1/4"-20 to 5/8"-27 Male 2 Piece Mic Adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GWVQ022/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_OSviBbX8E2F96

Already purchased this a few weeks ago so I’m covered.

I like these because if they get stuck, which they always do, you can use a quarter in the top slot to pry them loose.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rigpimp on June 13, 2018, 02:14:19 PM
Maybe consider a rapid adapter of some kind too.  Makes setup and break down a snap. (or twist)

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=rapid%20adapter&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 13, 2018, 02:30:27 PM
Maybe consider a rapid adapter of some kind too.  Makes setup and break down a snap. (or twist)

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=rapid%20adapter&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=

Got that about 20 minutes ago. Looks like I’m a step ahead of you today ;)
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rocksuitcase on June 13, 2018, 02:50:06 PM
Maybe consider a rapid adapter of some kind too.  Makes setup and break down a snap. (or twist)

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=rapid%20adapter&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=

Got that about 20 minutes ago. Looks like I’m a step ahead of you today ;)
Yup, kindms and I are thinking of one of these for our Mathews extension pole:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/824403-REG/Impact_ca_102_Rapid_Baby_to_3_8.html

same page as rigpimp listed, only this is the specific 3/8 inch stud.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rigpimp on June 13, 2018, 03:30:18 PM
Yup, kindms and I are thinking of one of these for our Mathews extension pole:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/824403-REG/Impact_ca_102_Rapid_Baby_to_3_8.html

same page as rigpimp listed, only this is the specific 3/8 inch stud.

I bought the Manfrotto flavor back in 2003 and use it 99% of the time I record.  It is strong like ox.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/546490-REG/Manfrotto_014_38_014_38_Rapid_Adapter.html?ap=y&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxoqv2q_R2wIVB3ZeCh1tWAJYEAQYAiABEgL0JfD_BwE
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: Brian E. on June 14, 2018, 09:19:25 PM
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Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: tim in jersey on June 16, 2018, 08:08:32 AM
Minor MAJOR annoyance of mine when I first started taping was those damned thread adapters. Come off the stand? Stay in the mount? Drop in a muddy puddle on the first day of a fest?

Purple Loctite.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 19, 2018, 02:40:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sbnGwRu.jpg)

Used the super clamp+telescopic extension for the first time last night. The clamp could only latch on in a way that caused the pole to be at an angle. Is there any way to avoid this with a superclamp or would a c clamp be the way to get it up perpendicular to the ledge?
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: if_then_else on June 19, 2018, 02:57:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sbnGwRu.jpg)

Used the super clamp+telescopic extension for the first time last night. The clamp could only latch on in a way that caused the pole to be at an angle. Is there any way to avoid this with a superclamp or would a c clamp be the way to get it up perpendicular to the ledge?

Manfrotto 026 Swivel Lite-Tite Umbrella Adapter (or an equivalent knock-off product).
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: goodcooker on June 19, 2018, 02:57:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sbnGwRu.jpg)

Used the super clamp+telescopic extension for the first time last night. The clamp could only latch on in a way that caused the pole to be at an angle. Is there any way to avoid this with a superclamp or would a c clamp be the way to get it up perpendicular to the ledge?

Superclamps typically come with a wedge insert that allows it to clamp flat to a table top. I always lose that insert and have to wing it.

A lot of people prefer a Matthelini type jaw clamp for flat surfaces.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: jcable77 on June 19, 2018, 06:39:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sbnGwRu.jpg)

Used the super clamp+telescopic extension for the first time last night. The clamp could only latch on in a way that caused the pole to be at an angle. Is there any way to avoid this with a superclamp or would a c clamp be the way to get it up perpendicular to the ledge?
This is what i would use and works great in that situation. Ive had the same issue, even with the wedge in the superclamp.
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiCj5-S5eDbAhXRtcAKHfVPBZ0YABAIGgJpbQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2cBbd6HlybuaLcGkm7fo9C6UT431KyU8V5C257vMIqiUHPGP-d3KxVjC2PEV4EqTnF7L9QWnrySyAkO0Mwdw&sig=AOD64_0l_RbK56baWAlEuV9xIc2AnraPzQ&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwj0t5WS5eDbAhUs3IMKHc3BBUwQwg8IJg&adurl=

Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rigpimp on June 19, 2018, 06:47:22 PM
If you lose the rubber insert superclamps are good for round rails, use a flat C-clamp like a Rowi for tables and lips. 
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: vanark on June 19, 2018, 06:51:48 PM
If you lose the rubber insert superclamps are good for round rails, use a flat C-clamp like a Rowi for tables and lips.

You can buy a 4 pack of the wedges if you lose one and need a replacement.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 19, 2018, 07:08:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sbnGwRu.jpg)

Used the super clamp+telescopic extension for the first time last night. The clamp could only latch on in a way that caused the pole to be at an angle. Is there any way to avoid this with a superclamp or would a c clamp be the way to get it up perpendicular to the ledge?
This is what i would use and works great in that situation. Ive had the same issue, even with the wedge in the superclamp.
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiCj5-S5eDbAhXRtcAKHfVPBZ0YABAIGgJpbQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2cBbd6HlybuaLcGkm7fo9C6UT431KyU8V5C257vMIqiUHPGP-d3KxVjC2PEV4EqTnF7L9QWnrySyAkO0Mwdw&sig=AOD64_0l_RbK56baWAlEuV9xIc2AnraPzQ&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwj0t5WS5eDbAhUs3IMKHc3BBUwQwg8IJg&adurl=

Thanks for the link, I was having trouble finding a clamp with an opening larger than 2”. That price is pretty steep though  :-\
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: heathen on June 19, 2018, 07:10:37 PM
Gear that enables you to set up in the ideal location is worth the expense, IMO.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: vanark on June 19, 2018, 07:46:56 PM
I think I use the Manfrotto quick release more than any other clamp. Although I use superclamps a fair bit too, esp. on round rails.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: jcable77 on June 19, 2018, 08:48:29 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sbnGwRu.jpg)

Used the super clamp+telescopic extension for the first time last night. The clamp could only latch on in a way that caused the pole to be at an angle. Is there any way to avoid this with a superclamp or would a c clamp be the way to get it up perpendicular to the ledge?
This is what i would use and works great in that situation. Ive had the same issue, even with the wedge in the superclamp.
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwiCj5-S5eDbAhXRtcAKHfVPBZ0YABAIGgJpbQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2cBbd6HlybuaLcGkm7fo9C6UT431KyU8V5C257vMIqiUHPGP-d3KxVjC2PEV4EqTnF7L9QWnrySyAkO0Mwdw&sig=AOD64_0l_RbK56baWAlEuV9xIc2AnraPzQ&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwj0t5WS5eDbAhUs3IMKHc3BBUwQwg8IJg&adurl=

Thanks for the link, I was having trouble finding a clamp with an opening larger than 2”. That price is pretty steep though  :-\
Think i found one on ebay a ways back around 35. It really was worth it. I use it all the time.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: Moke on June 20, 2018, 09:41:04 AM
clamping to clamps
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: ycoop on June 20, 2018, 03:01:23 PM
I ended up going with 6” wide jaw impact brand Matthellini type clamp that I found used (open box) on Amazon for $35.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: vanark on June 21, 2018, 09:36:48 PM
I ended up going with 6” wide jaw impact brand Matthellini type clamp that I found used (open box) on Amazon for $35.

That's a good deal.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: jbell on July 26, 2018, 05:34:49 PM
Can anyone share the link to the legs that can be attached to a Manfrotto 099b extension pole??  I can seem to find it searching B&H
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: jcable77 on July 26, 2018, 05:41:19 PM
Can anyone share the link to the legs that can be attached to a Manfrotto 099b extension pole??  I can seem to find it searching B&H
https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjdqInN3b3cAhXWusAKHe6yC5oYABAKGgJpbQ&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAESQOD2dYIp-qVvbEqrsxe9Y0rjj1_DridcLzoo8OpL1ExYCkutrwOtjE6THNocc5iAnJHqcZMkZig0rnOlyp9BbQc&sig=AOD64_0QEElpLwNEWXR2-pYTQaHRj9hULA&ctype=5&q=&ved=0ahUKEwjtwIDN3b3cAhXGxYMKHc0PDEwQwg8ILg&adurl=
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rippleish20 on July 26, 2018, 05:47:33 PM
This maybe

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/546481-REG/Manfrotto_003_003_Backlight_Stand_Black.html
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: jbell on July 26, 2018, 06:17:50 PM
That's it thanks!

This maybe

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/546481-REG/Manfrotto_003_003_Backlight_Stand_Black.html
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: vanark on July 26, 2018, 08:24:12 PM
You are going to need a stud in order to use that one with the 099B. Both ends are female.

Here are two other options:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1119713-REG/impact_ls_3sb_backlight_stand_base.html

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/215853-REG/Manfrotto_003M_3095M_Mini_Backlight_Light.html

That's it thanks!

This maybe

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/546481-REG/Manfrotto_003_003_Backlight_Stand_Black.html
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: kindms on July 27, 2018, 06:41:02 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/sbnGwRu.jpg)

Used the super clamp+telescopic extension for the first time last night. The clamp could only latch on in a way that caused the pole to be at an angle. Is there any way to avoid this with a superclamp or would a c clamp be the way to get it up perpendicular to the ledge?

(http://www.blueberrydreams.com/tabbenoit2018-07-20jpg_03.jpeg)

We have been using the articulated arm recently. The thing is pretty versatile and allows for just about any angle

Super clamp > Arm > Matthews if we need the height. The pic below is super clamp, connected to back of chair > Arm > rapid adapter

https://www.manfrotto.us/2-section-single-articulated-arm-without-camera-bracket
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: goodcooker on July 28, 2018, 02:55:23 PM

I probably use the two section articulated arm more often than I do my stand nowadays. With a Superclamp I can get either or both of my active setups just about anywhere I like. Best gear purchase I've made.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: StarkRavingCalm on August 01, 2018, 09:20:15 AM
in for new thread
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: heathen on August 04, 2018, 03:59:27 PM
Obligatory clamping to a clamp (clampception?): http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=187418.0
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: tim in jersey on September 22, 2018, 03:39:19 AM
Stream of consciousness after a show on Thurday night.

We all clamped to a Matthews/Cardellini and pole extension on a single solid horizontal rail with the Matthews clamp in the vertical position. Photog buddy of mine pointed out the fact that the clamp point was a single point of failure. A single pivot point.

No issues. But the fact that a Super-clamp on either a horizontal pipe or vertical pipe spinning out of place made me think: Any ideas on how to mate a combo of the super clamp/Matthelini on both the Horizontal plane as well as the Vertical plane?

I'm thinking a super clamp on the vert. pipe and the Matthew-Lini on the Horizontal. Or vice versa.

Team Philly always runs safety cables. But just trying to hash out a solution that is mechanically superior...

I **know** there is a solution out there, but the Matthews/Cardellini/Bogen sites just ain't doin' for me at the moment...




Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: mnm207 on September 22, 2018, 10:25:29 AM
Simplest might be to bridge the two clamps with an articulated arm. Or a combination of Matthews Mini Grip heads or Microgrip heads and 3/8" rods. 9.Solutions also makes a series of 3/8" grip heads, rods and clamps. Check out the 9.solutions Python Clamp Mini product photos to see how they combine various rods, clamps and heads to create multiple mounting points.


Minigrip: https://products.msegrip.com/collections/microgrip-and-minigrip/products/minigrip
Microgrip: https://products.msegrip.com/collections/microgrip-and-minigrip/products/micro-grip
9.solutions: https://9.solutions/
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: splumer on October 31, 2018, 12:00:48 PM
Just saw this on B&H; what do you guys think of it:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1434572-REG/camvate_c1196_crab_clamp_with_ball.html

I've been wracking my brain lately trying to figure out what to get for a clamp setup, but this seems perfect! Could maybe use a longer arm, though.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rocksuitcase on October 31, 2018, 01:39:22 PM
Just saw this on B&H; what do you guys think of it:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1434572-REG/camvate_c1196_crab_clamp_with_ball.html

I've been wracking my brain lately trying to figure out what to get for a clamp setup, but this seems perfect! Could maybe use a longer arm, though.
interesting with the 360' ballhead. Is this why it is less money than a Manfrotto:
Quote
Made from CNC-machined aluminum
   $19.99
Manfrotto: T
Quote
he Manfrotto 035RL Super Clamp is made of lightweight cast alloy
         but not that much more money: $29.02
OR is it just the brand which commands the $$?
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: capnhook on October 31, 2018, 01:56:21 PM
Just saw this on B&H; what do you guys think of it:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1434572-REG/camvate_c1196_crab_clamp_with_ball.html

I've been wracking my brain lately trying to figure out what to get for a clamp setup, but this seems perfect! Could maybe use a longer arm, though.
interesting with the 360' ballhead. Is this why it is less money than a Manfrotto:
Quote
Made from CNC-machined aluminum
   $19.99
Manfrotto: T
Quote
he Manfrotto 035RL Super Clamp is made of lightweight cast alloy
         but not that much more money: $29.02
OR is it just the brand which commands the $$?

I'd get one if it was all 3/8"
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: splumer on November 01, 2018, 10:23:52 AM
Just saw this on B&H; what do you guys think of it:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1434572-REG/camvate_c1196_crab_clamp_with_ball.html

I've been wracking my brain lately trying to figure out what to get for a clamp setup, but this seems perfect! Could maybe use a longer arm, though.
interesting with the 360' ballhead. Is this why it is less money than a Manfrotto:
Quote
Made from CNC-machined aluminum
   $19.99
Manfrotto: T
Quote
he Manfrotto 035RL Super Clamp is made of lightweight cast alloy
         but not that much more money: $29.02
OR is it just the brand which commands the $$?


Depends on the alloy, I guess. What I like about the Camvate is that it doesn't need any adapters or anything like that. I'm gonna get it, and once I've used it, I'll post a review.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: rocksuitcase on November 01, 2018, 11:03:33 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+T       for that cost, if it does what you want, I like the flexibility of it as well. Let us know your opinion of it once you use it.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: beegar on November 01, 2018, 02:53:50 PM
I've got this mic bar attached to a Bogen 196 arm/Super Clamp with an adapter. Is there a way to secure the bar to the arm? It just kind of sits there (not loose but not tight).

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534725-REG/K_M_23510_500_55_23510_Microphone_Bar.html (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534725-REG/K_M_23510_500_55_23510_Microphone_Bar.html)
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: vanark on November 01, 2018, 03:09:38 PM
I've got this mic bar attached to a Bogen 196 arm/Super Clamp with an adapter. Is there a way to secure the bar to the arm? It just kind of sits there (not loose but not tight).

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534725-REG/K_M_23510_500_55_23510_Microphone_Bar.html (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534725-REG/K_M_23510_500_55_23510_Microphone_Bar.html)
You need a rapid adapter. Manfrotto 014-38. Other manufacturers make them too and might be a dollar or two less.
Title: Re: Clamp-aholics. The ultimate clamping and rigging team thread II
Post by: beegar on November 01, 2018, 03:36:01 PM
I've got this mic bar attached to a Bogen 196 arm/Super Clamp with an adapter. Is there a way to secure the bar to the arm? It just kind of sits there (not loose but not tight).

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534725-REG/K_M_23510_500_55_23510_Microphone_Bar.html (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534725-REG/K_M_23510_500_55_23510_Microphone_Bar.html)
You need a rapid adapter. Manfrotto 014-38. Other manufacturers make them too and might be a dollar or two less.

Thanks, ordered.