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Title: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on December 12, 2018, 11:46:02 PM
Don't tell anyone about this trick!
This morning, chamber music trio ensemble, with, Stradavarious violin.

Mic stands? Why, when you've got plastic stacking chairs at hand??
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: illconditioned on December 13, 2018, 12:48:49 AM
LOL
Great stealth job ... except for the mic stand clamped to the chair.
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: ThePiedPiper on December 13, 2018, 04:44:52 AM
On the 1st picture I was able to see the stealth taper but on pictures 2 and 3 he was gone. Blended in with the crowd. Uncatchable stealth. Awesome job.
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: heathen on December 13, 2018, 08:36:49 AM
Moke, can you post some pics that show the mics?  All I see is three pictures of a guy sitting in a chair.
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on December 13, 2018, 11:29:06 AM
the cloak of invisibility.
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Post by: lmgbtapes on December 14, 2018, 02:32:32 PM
Excellent work- must have taken many years to perfect this technique.
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: lsd2525 on December 14, 2018, 03:38:42 PM
He needs a haircut
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: ideal77dlr on December 14, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
I can’t see anything.

Where’s the chair?
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on May 05, 2019, 11:18:05 AM
He goes stealth again, twice this week!

6723 & 26 - wednesday night PZM-OMT and Binaural


6751 - yesterday evening
Binaural at first seat, right of center. The conductor isn't comfortable with Güde, so he went into deep stealth mode for a string quartet and double choir.
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: anodyne33 on May 06, 2019, 09:54:36 AM
:off topic interjection:

Great story about a lost and found Strad I think you'll enjoy Moke.
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/09/654490918/the-tale-of-the-stolen-totenberg-stradivarius-ends-with-a-new-legacy
You probably heard it, I know you're also a Morninig Edition fan.  >:D

:/off topic interjection:
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: seethreepo on May 06, 2019, 10:04:27 PM
FYI there is a FRANK Zappa show on dime actually recorded with a Sennhieser  head
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on May 07, 2019, 05:05:24 AM
Would it be possible for someone to grab that and offer a WeTransfer, or other free d/l service, here?
DimeaDozen mods (initials NSE) screwed me out of a huge upload tally for a minor infraction, and I can no longer do anything there (will no longer do anything there).
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: seethreepo on May 07, 2019, 10:28:54 AM
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=648844
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Post by: darby on May 07, 2019, 10:59:19 AM
Would it be possible for someone to grab that and offer a WeTransfer, or other free d/l service, here?
DimeaDozen mods (initials NSE) screwed me out of a huge upload tally for a minor infraction, and I can no longer do anything there (will no longer do anything there).

good for 7 days from may 7

https://we.tl/t-SdmMHRE3NW
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on January 28, 2020, 09:15:00 PM
He goes stealth again, twice this week!

6723 & 26 - wednesday night PZM-OMT and Binaural


6751 - yesterday evening
Binaural at first seat, right of center. The conductor isn't comfortable with Güde, so he went into deep stealth mode for a string quartet and double choir.

OK,... I was doing a random search for an American Native Indigenous Studies professor friend of mine, as I've been driving extensively throughout an area that has a huge amount of Native Reservation lands around here. 
He wrote some works that are performed by a chamber ensemble that I record, regularly. At any rate,... that search just happened to land me on an image from a concert that I recorded with Güde, in stealth mode, the pictures of which are attached to this quoted post.
This is a professional shot image that I found in that random search.
Güde in stealth mode:
(https://www.stunewsnewport.com/images/editorial/oct15B/The-Hutchins-Consort-performs.jpg)
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: DSatz on January 29, 2020, 01:49:46 AM
My teacher, the late Rudolf Kolisch, once left his Stradivarius violin on a train in Germany, I think during the early-to-mid 1950s. It was returned to him the next day.
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on February 22, 2020, 02:30:01 AM
Well, Güde hung with some luminaries of microphone technologies tonight.
EW QTC1 omni pair, Royer dynamic stereo ribbon (behind the image posted);
Barnaby Pro 3D.Audio mic (https://3d.audio/store) (horizontal windscreen), Neumann Binaural Head, Sennheiser Ambisonic mic, Line Audio CM3 pair, and Senn MKE2 pair (in the image)
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: heathen on February 22, 2020, 09:25:12 AM
Well, Güde hung with some luminaries of microphone technologies tonight.
EW QTC1 omni pair, Royer dynamic stereo ribbon (behind the image posted), Barnaby Pro 3D.Audio mic (https://3d.audio/store) (horizontal windscreen), Neumann Binaural Head, Sennheiser Ambisonic mic, Line Audio CM3 pair, and Senn MKE2 pair

What was it that brought out such a crowd?
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on February 22, 2020, 11:58:47 AM
There were three of us recording last night. The third person was not normally there.  He was on invite from the other recordist for the ensemble, who met him at the NAMM show this year(i think?). The band said OK,... so,...
There was nothing so special or overt as to make it a special occasion. This show was the consort and an irish fiddler; mostly Irish music.

edited to remove some untowards thought. thanks. out.
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: illconditioned on February 22, 2020, 04:37:29 PM
There were three of us recording last night. The third person was not normally there.  He was on invite from the other recordist for the ensemble, who met him at the NAMM show this year(i think?). The band said OK,... so,...
There was nothing so special or overt as to make it a special occasion. This show was the consort and an irish fiddler; mostly Irish music.

edited to remove some untowards thought. thanks. out.
Moke, I think you're having a good influence on these people  ;D
Bring out the Blue head and all hell breaks loose ...
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on February 22, 2020, 05:17:19 PM
I also did the I Drilled A New Hole In The Bottom Of Güdes Chest/Storage Box, So That I Could Mount Another Pair of Mics Over His Head, mod yesterday afternoon, before the concert.
So, I was also testing that mod out, amongst the fracas.
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Gutbucket on February 27, 2020, 10:05:34 AM
Digin' the 45 degree rotation of the Güde box for the boundary mounted Senns, which I assume was necessary for sufficient clearance behind the head for the new mic-mount as well.
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on February 27, 2020, 10:39:43 AM
Digin' the 45 degree rotation of the Güde box for the boundary mounted Senns, which I assume was necessary for sufficient clearance behind the head for the new mic-mount as well.

Many years ago, I tried a Crown SASS PZM stereo mic.  I was quite impressed with the sound. Its design stuck in my head.
Then, I was facing a new venue, and, decided, for some reason, to throw up an impromptu PZM configuration by turning Güde chest around to the 45º orientation. Prior to that, I had tried it as a baffle, with no 45º orientation; just l/r mics on hard sides at 90º and 270º.  This was very similar to the J-Disc studies of a few years back.
This is that first effort, I think?
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=188925.msg2299159#msg2299159

The improv PZM rig worked beautifully. The ensemble raved about the effort.  So, I've been experimenting further with physical on-stage placement, and combos of this rigging, such as placing the box in deeper, closer to the mid-Cello section, and having other mics pointed at the flanking wings. It has all been working out really well.

In this latest effort, I arrived at my usual setup time (I try for two hours prior to show time, but, typically get there an hour and a half early), there were already a forest of mic stands, right up the center.
Myself; this was all set up where I typically go to (first row, center of center aisle, just in front of the front row pews stub wall), but, the new guy didn't have any care for audience sightlines, and he flew at a too high an elevation, IMO.
I typically set up there, but, keep my rigs at or slightly below the level of the black music stands, never going higher, to preserve sightlines.  This new mic stand forest was set up there, and pretty much blocked everyone sight of the ensemble.

For some reason, Güde mic mount thread set was mounted off-center to the head, whereas the others that I've seen were centered to the "spine column" for stand mounting. So, this made it a challenge to fit that second stand mount hole in his box. I'm glad I did it, as it makes for a nice compact rig.

/rambling
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Gutbucket on February 27, 2020, 01:34:49 PM
(https://www.mapleshadestore.com/assets/images/f8703b961f32920aebda8ffc3b272e32_lg.jpg)

(https://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/all-things-technical/691177d1504954349-boundary-room-mics-teldec-technique-redwine_trio1.jpg)
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: kindms on February 27, 2020, 06:50:27 PM
gotta love a 10k$ Neumann head making an appearance. I set a gofundme for one :) a long time ago. so far no donations
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on February 27, 2020, 06:57:19 PM
Is that what a Neu. head goes for now?!?


Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: kindms on February 27, 2020, 06:58:20 PM
Is that what a Neu. head goes for now?!?

sorry

8400

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/replacement_for/146368-REG/Neumann_KU_100_KU_100_Dummy_Head.html
Title: Re: Güde Head Goes Into Stealth Mode - Security Be Damned!
Post by: Moke on February 27, 2020, 07:37:40 PM
thanks!
Wow.  i have lots to say, but am waiting for another couple of comps before I can really grasp what all went down.
I have the Neumann tracks, and have been comping them to my own head, and to the PZM array, and the four mic PZM+XY mix

There is a lot to be said for carefully selected, lower dollar tools.