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R-09HR external power
« on: October 29, 2008, 11:36:34 PM »
Although 2 NiMh AA batteries run my deck for a long time, I ended up getting this power pack from Amazon, which has selectable voltage down to 3v.  Saw it here somewhere, but I can't remember where:


Went to one of the many convenient, local radio shack stores, and got two adapta-plug sockets, a package of butt connectors, some shrink-wrap tubing and adapta-plugs "N" and "B" to make this hack-job power cable:


Turns out I also had this old rat shack 4xAA NiMh charger which plugs into the wall to re-charge itself and also has selectable voltage from 9v to 3v:


Both battery packs run the R-09HR, probably for much, much longer than I'll ever need:

and


Total bill at rat shack was over $26 for all the parts, but that DIY feeling was, well, priceless...
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Now you don't:   CA-14c  or DPA4061 > CA ST-9100 > R-09HR


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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2008, 12:20:14 AM »
cool stuff +T

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 06:37:58 AM »
Got a Link?
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 11:24:05 AM »
Got a Link?

Link to the portable power pack?  Here it is on Amazon, but I think I got mine for under $20, including shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/iConcepts-Digi-Power-Pack-PP99/dp/B0009EXVGC

Probably worth shopping around a bit for this thing.  I swear I read a thread on these boards talking about this battery, and when I bought it, it was around $14 plus shipping.  So I'm shocked to see it priced over $40.  Maybe it was on sale when I bought it.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2008, 11:30:30 AM »
D'oh!  I just realized that they're still $13.99 each via Amazon.  Just click the " ›  3 used & new available from $13.99" thingy

But don't count on the adapta-plug style tips that come with that battery to work with anything you have.  If they do, its a bonus, but they're not interchangeable with the rat shack adapta-plugs
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 12:15:34 PM »
Can this external pack be used in conjuction with the internal batteries?
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2008, 01:11:14 PM »
From what I've read, it's probably advisable to keep a pair of AA's inside the R-09HR while running on external power.  If the external battery starts to fade, the deck will seamlessly switch to internal batteries (that's what I've read here, anyway, but I haven't tried this myself).  Unlike a JB3, however, the external battery won't charge the internal batteries.  The R-09HR doesn't have an internal, on-board charger
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2008, 09:04:40 AM »
Thanks for the link.  This seems like a good solution to Multi Voltage Needs (3V, 4.5V, 5V, 6V, 6.5V, & 8.4V Settings). 

Found one for $9.99 also.

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Universal-Portable-Polaroid-Closeout/dp/B0012NYC8A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1225455184&sr=1-1#moreAboutThisProduct
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2008, 10:21:42 AM »
Wonder how long this would power a Korg MR-1? Might be a good battery pack for MR-1 users.

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 07:52:12 PM »
how long can you run on this external power for?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 08:56:42 PM »
how long can you run on this external power for?

I have been too lazy to figure it out, but a VERY long time.  I'd say "Festival Long".
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 12:59:28 PM »
Thanks for the link.  This seems like a good solution to Multi Voltage Needs (3V, 4.5V, 5V, 6V, 6.5V, & 8.4V Settings). 

Found one for $9.99 also.

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Universal-Portable-Polaroid-Closeout/dp/B0012NYC8A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1225455184&sr=1-1#moreAboutThisProduct


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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2009, 09:58:40 AM »
This is probably a dumb question, but whatever, I can't find the answer (no, not even in the manual):

What voltage does the R-09HR require from external DC power?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 10:02:23 AM »
3 volt
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2009, 10:06:54 AM »
thank you

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2009, 12:36:54 PM »
i picked a couple of these up a while ago and am going to finally test them out in the field this weekend.   i don't have the HR but assume the R-09 would also be 3volts.   i picked up an O tip for the battery and it looks like the 09 needs a B

anyone know what the polarity of each is?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2009, 12:51:11 PM »
R09 = 5vt
R09HR = 3vt

Pretty sure all edirol proucts are reverse polarity.
I will send you a PDF of the manual from home tonight.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2009, 12:52:38 PM »
thanks ted

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2009, 01:12:43 PM »
R09 = 5vt
R09HR = 3vt

Pretty sure all edirol proucts are reverse polarity.
I will send you a PDF of the manual from home tonight.

I just looked at the wall-wort for my R-09 output= 3vDC @ 1A

and the wall-wort for my R09hr, output = 3vDC @1.2A

both tip negative
just checked they are tip positive!!!
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2009, 12:24:55 AM »
thanks :)

so i went into my local rat shack today to get another b tip.  they didn't any left on the shelf but their spare parts box yielded me a free one.    i wanted to plug everything in and make sure it worked.  i had an O tip for the battery side and the B for the R09.  we couldn't get it to work.... so we tried a different tip, L was the winner.  worked fine when both sides were negative polarity.  so i wanted to at least purchase the L tip from the clerk but he insisted in sifting through his box of spares and hooked me up w/ 2 tips for free.   ??? 
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2009, 02:16:12 AM »
R09 = 5vt
R09HR = 3vt

Pretty sure all edirol proucts are reverse polarity.
I will send you a PDF of the manual from home tonight.

I once built a 4x AA battery sled for my iRiver H120, had to take take to do some tricky things with the polarity there.  The discussion can be found here.  Any chance someone here can tell me whether this would work for the R-09HR or kill it somehow?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2009, 12:41:45 PM »
bump?
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2009, 08:01:57 PM »
bump?

If it's 3V and the right polarity you will have no problems and ~14-18 hours run-time.

I did look for the voltage but could not find it?

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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2009, 12:58:39 PM »
I just made a 4 "D" battery sled for my R09hr cost less than $10 to make.
I'll post some run times after I do some testing. Hoping for a cheap solution for those couple of festivals where I need 40+ hours of run time and don't have access to AC.

One thing worth noting, contrary to what I have read here and had thought myself, the R09 and R09hr are tip positive!!! Checked both wallworts to confirm this.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2009, 02:24:43 AM »
Thanks JD--

Could you check the image which I link to link a couple posts above and tell me if that type of battery box will work?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2009, 02:57:56 AM »
Thanks JD--

Could you check the image which I link to link a couple posts above and tell me if that type of battery box will work?

Thanks!

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2009, 09:58:36 AM »
Well the  4 D-cell  external battery pack didn't work out the way I had hoped.

Test specifics..
--Batteries - Duracell Procell (about 15,000 mah)
--Starting voltage - 3.22VDC fed to unit via the DC-in jack
--Ran recorder for 12 1/2 hrs with display on the brightest setting, with the record button lit, recording at 24/48 with the gain @ 40-- Voltage dropped to 2.77vdc
--Paused test for 10 hrs
-- battery pack now at 2.9 R09hr would not power up. Put the internals in, turned unit on, plugged in the external, then removed the internals and the unit stayed on
-- recorder ran for another 8+ hours, then shut off leaving the last file corrupt
--voltage was at 2.7vdc when unit shut down

So a total of about 20 hrs. I'm thinking if I make some dummy battery slugs and feed the voltage directly into the battery compartment it would have gone much longer and the battery meter would have functioned as well. At 30,000 mah capacity, I would think this pack should then run the R09hr for at least 60 hrs.

One thing I noted that was good; with batteries in the unit, you could unplug the external power and it would seamlessly switch back and forth. As long as you have a good voltage at either source, you could hot-swap the other source.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2009, 07:23:24 AM »
^ First impression is that your test was 95% successful.  Seems like the lesson learned is that with your battery pack you just need to make sure and keep a pair of internals in the unit. 

Were you able to tell, or does anyone know which batteries are the priority batteries when both internal and external are used.  IOW, do the externals exhaust their charge before the internals kick in?

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2009, 09:28:29 AM »
Were you able to tell, or does anyone know which batteries are the priority batteries when both internal and external are used.  IOW, do the externals exhaust their charge before the internals kick in?

It appears as though when there is an adequate external voltage (>2.7vdc) present, it is given priority.

I was bored at work last night so I made some battery slugs up and I am now testing the same battery pack
feeding the voltage thru the internal battery compartment. Looks like I am going to easily pass my 40 hr goal.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2009, 04:15:02 PM »
Well the  4 D-cell  external battery pack didn't work out the way I had hoped.

Test specifics..
--Batteries - Duracell Procell (about 15,000 mah)
--Starting voltage - 3.22VDC fed to unit via the DC-in jack
--Ran recorder for 12 1/2 hrs with display on the brightest setting, with the record button lit, recording at 24/48 with the gain @ 40-- Voltage dropped to 2.77vdc
--Paused test for 10 hrs
-- battery pack now at 2.9 R09hr would not power up. Put the internals in, turned unit on, plugged in the external, then removed the internals and the unit stayed on
-- recorder ran for another 8+ hours, then shut off leaving the last file corrupt
--voltage was at 2.7vdc when unit shut down

So a total of about 20 hrs. I'm thinking if I make some dummy battery slugs and feed the voltage directly into the battery compartment it would have gone much longer and the battery meter would have functioned as well. At 30,000 mah capacity, I would think this pack should then run the R09hr for at least 60 hrs.

One thing I noted that was good; with batteries in the unit, you could unplug the external power and it would seamlessly switch back and forth. As long as you have a good voltage at either source, you could hot-swap the other source.

Ok this test is finally over, after doing the above with the external jack, I made up some dummy battery slugs and fed the R09hr via the battery compartment> I got another 45 hrs out the same set of 4 D cells for a total of around 65 hours. Plenty for any festival that I do. I kind of liked the pack fed in thru the battery compartment battery solely because the battery meter on the recorder worked.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2009, 01:24:14 PM »
So R-09HR, reverse polarity or no? 

From the above posts it appears that it was thought to be the case but I'm still not quite sure? 
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2009, 01:38:39 PM »
So R-09HR, reverse polarity or no? 

From the above posts it appears that it was thought to be the case but I'm still not quite sure? 

On the wall-wart that came with the r09hr, look very closely at the back side of the plug that goes into the unit. They have it diagrammed on the plug as being tip positive.
A VOM confirms this.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2009, 03:34:05 PM »
So R-09HR, reverse polarity or no? 

From the above posts it appears that it was thought to be the case but I'm still not quite sure? 

On the wall-wart that came with the r09hr, look very closely at the back side of the plug that goes into the unit. They have it diagrammed on the plug as being tip positive.
A VOM confirms this.

Cool, is this standard or is ring positive standard?  I just bought an external battery for it and need to make a cable so I'm just making sure.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2009, 03:44:03 PM »
So R-09HR, reverse polarity or no? 

From the above posts it appears that it was thought to be the case but I'm still not quite sure? 

On the wall-wart that came with the r09hr, look very closely at the back side of the plug that goes into the unit. They have it diagrammed on the plug as being tip positive.
A VOM confirms this.

Cool, is this standard or is ring positive standard?  I just bought an external battery for it and need to make a cable so I'm just making sure.

I have always considered tip positive to be standard, but here of late, I am seeing more and more consumer electronics that are ring positive. So I guess it's pretty much up to whomever designs the item to choose.
 
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2009, 12:57:16 PM »
A while ago I bought a Lenmar PPU2100B external battery.  I am wondering if you folks know A) whether it will work with the R-09HR, B) how long it will work for the R-09HR, and C) If / where I can find a cable to take the power from the Lenmar product to R-09hr (Lenmar spits out power via USB).

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2009, 03:56:21 PM »
What if you were to get one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Initial-Universal-Portable-DVD-battery-Brand-New-Inpack_W0QQitemZ250431525633QQcategoryZ79845QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m183QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%252BS%252BIA%26itu%3DIT%252BUA%252BPSS%252BUCC%252BCRS%252BIA%252BUCI%252BSI%252BUS-BWR%26otn%3D3%26ps%3D33

and use the JB3 cable to plug from this battery into your 09HR.

That's a 9v battery. It would probably fry the R-09HR.

But people use 9 volt batteries for their JB3s and those are not 9.0 volt devices, are they? Isn't that the reason why we use the special cable?
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2009, 05:28:45 PM »
But people use 9 volt batteries for their JB3s*

* with a voltage regulator box

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2009, 05:48:23 PM »
But people use 9 volt batteries for their JB3s*

* with a voltage regulator box

This is the heat shrinked device right?
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2009, 08:17:39 AM »
This is the heat shrinked device right?

I've never seen one in that form factor (but that doesn't mean they don't exist).

Here is the type I am referring to: http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,114639.0.html

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2009, 11:51:41 AM »
the confusion has ended!!! take a look....



This is the device I am talking about. It takes voltage from the 9 volt dvd battery and makes it acceptable to use with your JB3.
So I was wondering what would happen if you plugged this into the 09HR. Let me tell you what happened when I did it, it worked but I didn't leave it plugged in for very long, I simply wanted to know what would happen. It showed the AC icon down in the lower corner as if was charging. I also removed the batteries while it was plugged in and it remained powered on.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2009, 12:55:33 PM »
just wanted to give a shout out to beeco for this thread and his photos. i copied the whole setup (well, i used an off-the-shelf RS power cord with open adaptaplug ends) and now have a perfect power supply for my R-09. was a lifesaver at bonnaroo; i didn't have to worry about swapping or charging AAs the entire time. fits perfectly in one side of an old panasonic videocam bag i wasn't using...CA-9100 on the the other and R-09 in the center (with CA-11s stored in a little cloth bag in the center as well. fully contained small bag with festival-grade power.

this is truly a great community. i've learned so much and saved myself untold grief trying to figure out the best way to 'gear up' on a budget.

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2009, 01:54:32 PM »
Well, now that I've posted instructions for building an external battery pack like the one at the top of the post, I seem to be having trouble with it, as Rastasean already knows.  I'm wondering if any of you good folks who are using the same battery I used are having power issues or random R-09HR shutdown issues during recording.  I've recently had 2 occasions where the R-09HR just powered down while running the external PP-99 Lion battery IN SPITE OF HAVING AA's IN THE DECK.  Very odd. 

I'm also interested in what type of sled JD built, how it interfaced with the internal battery compartment, and how that's working out over the long run.  Any thoughts, JD?  Maybe some pics? 
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Now you don't:   CA-14c  or DPA4061 > CA ST-9100 > R-09HR


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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2009, 12:29:38 AM »
I'm also interested in what type of sled JD built, how it interfaced with the internal battery compartment, and how that's working out over the long run.  Any thoughts, JD?  Maybe some pics? 

I have used the sled several times without issue. It will run the R09hr on it's brightest settings for 60+ hours on four D alkaline batteries with the battery meter on the unit fully functioning. For the $7 dollars or so that it cost to make, it is well worth it for festival recording. I'll put some pictures up later this week.

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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2009, 01:27:58 PM »
Hare are some pictures of the battery pack I made for my R09hr.

Started with two of these...http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062241

These holders configure two cells in series so each pack gives three volts.
The two packs were then wired in parallel. From what I gather a alkaline
D cell is about 15000 mah so this pack should have a capacity of
30,000mah @ 3vdc.





The two holders gaffer taped together, the wires are soldered and wrapped with shrink wrap.






the two holders with batteries installed






a little tape to hold them in





The battery slugs, made from nylon, drilled and tapped on the end for a 10-24 machine screw. Not that the positive battery screw was filled down so that it would fit into the slot in the R09hr, this polarizes the batteries so that they cannot be put in backwards. The wire are attached via standard hoop sta-kon crimp connectors. I machined the nylon to size in a lathe, but you could easily make something similar with wooden dowls and wood srcrews.






Side view of slugs






Installed, I then put a few pieces of gaffers tape over them to hold all in place. I thought about getting a second battery cover from edirol and modifying it so that it could be used to hold the slugs in and have a place for the wires to exit.


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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2009, 12:20:59 AM »
+T  Very nice.  Thanks for the pics.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2011, 10:16:52 PM »
I finally got a chance to read through this thread. So from what I've picked up I need something that outputs exactly 3V. I can make a custom cable without issue, I'm just having a hard time find a battery pack. All the links that I've followed for ebay links or other retails sites are really getting me what I need. Google hasn't given me what I need either.

I'm going to hit up my local RatShack tomorrow or Friday and see what I can find.

In the mean time, does anyone have a direct link to a rechargeable battery pack?
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2011, 05:21:22 AM »
I run my R09hr off 5v USB power all the time with no issues.  Hit me up and I will make you a cable.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2011, 06:10:50 AM »
I run my R09hr off 5v USB power all the time with no issues.  Hit me up and I will make you a cable.

What kind of USB battery? Any idea on run time? If I go this route I'll definitely be getting you to make me a cable.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2011, 06:33:18 AM »
Since my R09hr is not my main recorder I have never tested out run time with any if my USB power sources.  I have a lenmar power port that is 500mah and a battery carriage with a USB out that takes 4 AA batteries.  I use it in the car with a USB cigarette lighter adapter, a computer USB and my tekkeon.  Bottom line is it works with any external battery with a USB power source.  There are tons of options out there.
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Re: R-09HR external power
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2011, 08:59:02 AM »
One thing to keep in mind regardless of what external battery source you use is that there is no seamless switch to internal batteries when the external runs out.  There is when you plug in or unplug an external source but when the external sources runs out while plugged in the unit will turn off.
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