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DR-680 battery options
« on: May 14, 2010, 11:31:51 PM »
So I have a DR-680 en route and I need some schooling on what my battery options are for this unit.  The last batteries I bought were a slew of eco-charge batteries and I know things have evolved from those days, so what are my options?  Obviously I'd prefer to save $$ if possible but want a reliable and reasonably long lasting option.  Thanks for any advice.
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2010, 10:15:37 PM »
You might think about if you're going to run Phantom Power, and just how many 'maximum' hours runtime is required to properly size external powering requirements. 

My battery posting in the Retail section is good reading if wanting most reliable remote field runtimes of over 10 hours: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=83618.0;all

Or go to my website page for more alternatives, and extensive user knowledge of the different battery chemistries: www.sonicstudios.com/batsys98.htm
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2010, 11:27:49 AM »
My 680 is still on backorder so I don't have it yet to test it out, but I'm planning on using this battery with it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330391162265

I ordered mine on 4/30, and it arrived on 5/13.  <Two weeks from China, including order processing time is pretty good.  $35 shipped for a 6500mAh 12v li-ion battery is a great deal I think.  And man is it small and light!  Compared to a 12v 6 Amp-hr SLA battery, hoo boy what a change from the old days of lead!

I have no idea if the output connector will fit the 680, but I imagine I'll have to change it out.  But so far this battery looks like it could be a winner.

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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2010, 11:59:32 AM »
I'm getting more than 5 hours a piece out of my Wally World (9v) DVD batteries.

I may switch to the 12v batteries ToddR bought from HK if they work well for him.

I've looked for the exact power plug connector that's used on the DR-680. It's hard to find a right angle one. It's 5.5mm OD with the yellow tip split center pin.

I am currently using:
2.5mm x 5.5mm x 14mm RIGHT ANGLE DC Plug

Like this:
http://www.amazon.com/2-5mm-5-5mm-11-5mm-Plug-Cord/dp/B000LFVFK8



Edit: To add photo of DR-680 power plug

« Last Edit: June 01, 2010, 02:09:20 PM by Chuck »
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2010, 01:01:23 PM »
Good to know Chuck, thanks.  So the 680 definitely uses a 5.5 o.d. / 2.5 i.d connector?  The standard configurations for a 5.5 mm outer diameter coax connector are either 2.1mm inner diameter or 2.5mm inner diameter.  The problem is on a 2.1mm inner diameter connector on the recorder side, a 2.5mm i.d. connector will fit on just fine, but it can provide an intermittent connection.

I'll have to check on the connector that comes on that battery I got.  It definitely is a 5.5mm connector, but I'm not sure if the inner is 2.1 or 2.5.

So it may well fit directly on the 680, but I might switch it out to a right angle plug like Chuck shows.  I've got those RA cable assemblies at home somewhere anyway.
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2010, 01:21:08 PM »
Good to know Chuck, thanks.  So the 680 definitely uses a 5.5 o.d. / 2.5 i.d connector?

The OD is 5.5mm. I don't know the exact ID, because of the split center. 2.5mm ID works OK for me for now though.
But, the cable I'm currently using is not ideal. I'd love to find a source for the proper split center cable in right angle.
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2010, 06:32:10 AM »
Good to know Chuck, thanks.  So the 680 definitely uses a 5.5 o.d. / 2.5 i.d connector?

The OD is 5.5mm. I don't know the exact ID, because of the split center. 2.5mm ID works OK for me for now though.
But, the cable I'm currently using is not ideal. I'd love to find a source for the proper split center cable in right angle.
I make these in custom molded right/angle, that is if same as Sony DAT D7, D8 /MR-1 deck having 4.85mm x 1.7mm/4.1 mm x 1.7mm size plugs respectively. 

My in-stock plugs look/work identical to photo except are shipped 20 Ga custom length cord to molded R/A.
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 07:32:38 PM »
Anyone have anymore insight on the correct plug size for the DR-680?  I agree 5.5mm OD seems correct but hard for me to visually tell the difference between 2.1mm and 2.5mm. 
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2010, 01:05:01 PM »
I too would like to know as I would love to add this option to my power cable line.  I contacted Tascam and they din't seem to want to help saying that info is only available to authorized service agents.  :angry3:
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2010, 01:41:26 PM »
Man, that's a frustrating response.  Anyone know any authorized Tascam service agents we can hit up for the specs?
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2010, 01:54:36 PM »
I have been using one just like this with no problems.
5.5mm x 2.5mm

I've tried to make it break connection by twisting it & jiggling it while attached to the 680.
I can't get it to fail... so, I feel confident that it'll keep working.

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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2010, 01:57:05 PM »
I would suggest bringing the unit, not the plug, to an electronics store and stick a few plugs in.  Chuck said he did this with radio shack and they did not have the size, although it wouldn't hurt to try them in your area as well as any "other" electronics store.  I would imagine that tascam would use the same size as the HD-P2, which is a "m" size plug from radio shack.  I have attached a size chart that may help.
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2010, 02:02:00 PM »
I have been using one just like this with no problems.
5.5mm x 2.5mm

I've tried to make it break connection by twisting it & jiggling it while attached to the 680.
I can't get it to fail... so, I feel confident that it'll keep working.

Ok, that is a radio shack "n" plug.  That is the same size plug I use for the PP-99 battery and Mytek Stereo96 ADC.
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2010, 02:07:20 PM »
None of the Radio Shack adapta-plugs had the split in them, like the stock DR-680 plug does. That's why I said that I couldn't find it at Radio Shack.


edit to add:

I could buy a RS "n" plug and try it. (except that they're like $6-7 for just the plug) That would confirm whether the ID is 2.1mm or 2.5mm.
There may be .4mm of "slop" in my set-up. All I know is that it works fine for me.
« Last Edit: June 08, 2010, 02:51:04 PM by Chuck »
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Re: DR-680 battery options
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2010, 02:15:41 PM »
So I guess the question is which is (more) correct - the "N" plug (5.5 OD x 2.5 ID) or the "M" plug (5.5 OD x 2.1 ID).  Obviously it seems like the 2.5mm size is working, although if the HD-P2 uses the "M" plug, it would seem wierd they would switch things up for the 680.  What is the significance of the split in the stock plug?  I assume the connectors are spring loaded and hence it's supposed to make a better connection?  I guess it sounds like I should take my deck in and see if a 2.1mm ID plug will work with the deck and if so, presumably it's a more reliable connection, as long as it's not too tight a fit (?)  Are the split versions of these same sizes available via online electronics distributors and is it worth the trouble to track down?
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