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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2011, 08:52:12 PM »
I'll chime in here just to say that I'm a bit disappointed that, although the H2n features four? five? capsules (and would like to see a picture inside the H2n...), there's no way to access the original signal of those caps: what is recorded is already processed. Anyway, having access to the direct signal would allow me to design a plug-in for the H2n, like the one I did for the original H2.

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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2011, 09:01:01 PM »
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I'll chime in here just to say that I'm a bit disappointed that, although the H2n features four? five? capsules (and would like to see a picture inside the H2n...), there's no way to access the original signal of those caps: what is recorded is already processed. Anyway, having access to the direct signal would allow me to design a plug-in for the H2n, like the one I did for the original H2.
The H2N has five capsules, but these are more like four as one pair are, in effect, a figure of 8 capsule.  You can record, simultaneously, on four separate tracks (well, two stereo), the output from the mid mic, the "virtual" figure of 8 side mic, and the two X/Y capsules.  The only thing you can't do is to access the side capsules individually.
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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2011, 11:01:34 AM »
I got mine this afternoon. Nice little recorder. PLASTIC tripod mount though (H2's was metal)...

I did some EIN noise tests on it to start me off.
* NB I assumed that the H2n's gain range is 0 to 39dB with no part of the range set as "digital attenuation" (as on the H1 and the Sony M10).

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LEVEL    GAIN (dB)    EIN
 0        0.0      -99.1
 1        3.9      -100.0
 2        7.8      -100.2
 3        11.7     -107.7
 4        15.6     -108.0
 5        19.5     -114.5
 6        23.4     -114.4
 7        27.3     -114.8
 8        31.2     -114.4
 9        35.1     -113.9
10        39.0     -114.0

I've done a few such tests of a few recorders I've had in my possession (one or two very briefly) and here's a plot:



My numbers seem to coincide with other measurements out there and for the gain range where I tend to record (lowish i.e. 10-20dB) it would appear that the H2n and M10 are close. In the higher gain ranges the M10 is clearly ahead.

In any case, I think we can safely say that Zoom have fixed the noisy mic input compared with the H2 :)
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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2011, 03:49:50 AM »
Nice graph!
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H2n, as Audio Interface?
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2011, 05:24:31 PM »
hi everybody
i wana know what exactly the h2n does as a usb Audio Interface(A/I)?

if i connect it to pc, can I have access to all of the ms track(s) and x/y tracks(or line-in tracks simultaneously?

please tell me about it's latency, how fast it operate's as an A/I?

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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2011, 03:09:09 AM »

An ambient recording (me walking the dogs up the park and driving them home) which I think gives a good impression of the H2N in that role -

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/22/1451533/Out%20with%20the%20dogs.mp3

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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2011, 08:03:24 PM »
Anyone tried one of these at high SPL? Say 100-110db, onstage or around the room at midsized rock concerts. My primary sticking point with mics-that-record is whether they crap out when things get loud  :'(

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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2011, 09:03:03 PM »
It would be a great way to get a quick easy onstage "surround" (not 5.1) recording. 

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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2011, 06:51:38 PM »
I don't know whether non-members can hear the sample at http://www.gearslutz.com/board/remote-possibilities-acoustic-music-location-recording/672381-thank-heavens-hand-held-recordist-there-today.html but if so, I think it's impressive.  H2N vs AKG C426B and Nagra.

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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2011, 07:10:51 PM »

An ambient recording (me walking the dogs up the park and driving them home) which I think gives a good impression of the H2N in that role -

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/22/1451533/Out%20with%20the%20dogs.mp3
Link doesn't work.

Also, can you say what pattern and gain settings you used.

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Re: New Zoom? H2n, has some interesting selecable pattern features
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2011, 10:42:31 PM »
MS, but I don't recall other settings.  Site is down for maintenance, maybe check the link again later.

 

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