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Shure FP24 (Mixpre) limiter threshold?
« on: March 29, 2013, 11:10:35 PM »
Can someone explain where the limiter threshold should be set for live jamband type music?  The limiter lights were illuminated all night and I had the threshold turned all the way to the right on both channels which I believe is +18 db.  Does this mean I need to use a pad on my mics?  I assume yes, they have a -10 and -20 db pads.  Any suggestions?
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Re: Shure FP24 (Mixpre) limiter threshold?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 11:34:58 PM »
These units have input transformers to accommodate long cable runs, so they run hot. Pads or inline attenuators of -10 to -20 will get you to a nice place for gain, and you won't see those pesky limiter lights unless you have it cranked up. I'd go with the -10 setting.
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Re: Shure FP24 (Mixpre) limiter threshold?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2013, 07:03:59 PM »
So the mics pads should be sufficient then?  There would be no need for inline attenuators if the mics have pads correct?

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Re: Shure FP24 (Mixpre) limiter threshold?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2013, 12:44:51 PM »
So the mics pads should be sufficient then?  There would be no need for inline attenuators if the mics have pads correct?

Yep, should be fine.
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Re: Shure FP24 (Mixpre) limiter threshold?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2013, 01:25:08 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  One last question abou the threshold settings...do you know if all the way to the left is +6 and all the way to the right is +18db ?  There are Bsolutely no markings to indicate anything and nothing in the manual so I am curious where others have their screws set at?  All the way to the left, right, or in the middle somewhere?  I jut don't want to have it set too low for recording rock shows.

I have them all the way to the right currently and they were limiting at about -6db (gain knobs were at 8:30) for the show I just attended.  If I apply the 10 b pad on my mics would I have to adjust the limiter threshold?  I hope this question makes sense.  I have another show on Tuesday and I want this figured out if possible

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Re: Shure FP24 (Mixpre) limiter threshold?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2013, 02:03:15 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  One last question abou the threshold settings...do you know if all the way to the left is +6 and all the way to the right is +18db ?  There are Bsolutely no markings to indicate anything and nothing in the manual so I am curious where others have their screws set at?  All the way to the left, right, or in the middle somewhere?  I jut don't want to have it set too low for recording rock shows.

I have them all the way to the right currently and they were limiting at about -6db (gain knobs were at 8:30) for the show I just attended.  If I apply the 10 b pad on my mics would I have to adjust the limiter threshold?  I hope this question makes sense.  I have another show on Tuesday and I want this figured out if possible

Thanks

I don't use the limiter. With my 3Zs with the -15db pads engaged, I end up with the dials at ~11:00. This gets the peaks to +12 (2nd red) which sounds great to my ears. Paired with the M10 set at 4.5, I get peaks ~-6 (perfect) at loud shows. Hope that helps!
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