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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #210 on: March 12, 2019, 03:46:32 PM »
Stupid question. Looks like I lost my power supply for my F8. Do I have to drop $30 on one or will other 12v adapters work okay?
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #211 on: March 12, 2019, 04:32:08 PM »
Other 12VDC power sources can work fine.

F8 works with supplies ranging from 9 to 16V DC
F8n works with supplies ranging from 9 to 18V DC

Not sure of amperage output requirement.
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #212 on: March 13, 2019, 11:48:26 AM »
Stupid question. Looks like I lost my power supply for my F8. Do I have to drop $30 on one or will other 12v adapters work okay?


12V Plugged in will be no issue at all.

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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #213 on: March 13, 2019, 07:03:01 PM »
I don't own one of these, but would guess you need to know which contact is positive and which is negative before using a third party power supply. 

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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #214 on: March 13, 2019, 10:14:09 PM »
I don't own one of these, but would guess you need to know which contact is positive and which is negative before using a third party power supply.

If only there was a sticky on Taperssection.com with this info!!! :banging head:

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http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=150794.0;all  :headphones:

Zoom F8 (Hirose Port on the Side) / 9-16v / 4-pin Hirose connector / pin 4 for (+) pin 1 for (-)
Zoom F8 (DC Port on the Back) / 12v / Size M, 5.50mm OD × 2.10mm ID / Center pin (+Ring (-)

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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #215 on: March 26, 2019, 07:53:13 PM »
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #217 on: July 31, 2019, 08:04:53 AM »
Firmware v6.0 available:

https://www.zoom-na.com/products/field-video-recording/field-recording/zoom-f8-multitrack-field-recorder#downloads

For anyone curious, here's the release note:

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Released as following bug fix and function update in June 2019
■Function Update
1. Added a function to receive timecode over Bluetooth LE from UltraSync BLUE by Timecode
Systems and write timecode information to a recording file.
Installation of the software extension file is required to use Bluetooth LE function.
■Bug Fix
1. The time reference of recorded files is slightly shifted when the frame rate for timecode is set to
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #218 on: August 06, 2019, 07:18:28 PM »
^ I read this as providing nothing compelling for most tapers (except those using timecode, maybe )
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #219 on: August 06, 2019, 07:32:43 PM »
^ I read this as providing nothing compelling for most tapers (except those using timecode, maybe )

Same here.  I'm not going to bother with it.
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #220 on: November 14, 2019, 11:54:39 AM »
I've seen other confused by the MS link setting, and now I am too.

I set it for MS link.   During recording, and upon playback, I hear two separate mono mics.  It's not encoding for either live monitoring purposes or playback.  If it's a two step process, or there's another setting that locks this option out, I'm not finding it on the unit or seeing it on the manual. 

I usually don't want to use this setting, preferring to encode in post, but at times I want access.   I'd particularly like access for live monitoring checks, maybe to do a test with it on to see what I'm getting, then switch it off for most recording. 
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #221 on: November 14, 2019, 04:24:25 PM »
It's wonky and confusing!  I don't have a good answer for you, and half-suspect it is not really implemented correctly (at least it is not well implemented).

I rarely monitor during recording except to check for clean signal in each channel if there is a problem, so while recording I would only want to hear the non-encoded M/S channels anyway.  It would be nice for sending a patch out or making a simultaneous rough stereo mix though.

Most of my experience is with trying to get it to work on playback.  I cannot get it to encode to LR during playback unless monitoring for that pair is set pre-fader, but then there is no fader (or width) control over that pair in the stereo mix. Level and width are predetermined by whatever the recording trim was set at during the recording.  If set to post-fader the two channels translate as two separate mono channels in the mix, with level and pan control.  There really should be a post-fader M/S>L/R option.

The first few recordings I made recorded all channels to 2-channel files, but for everything since, I've recorded individual mono files.  Not sure if that effects how this is working.

I've been meaning to mess around with it more, but don't want to accidentally set it to record encoded L/R instead of discrete M/S.
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #222 on: November 15, 2019, 10:18:53 AM »
Yeah the manual is ‘translation wording’ and not terribly clear in meaning. 

Dropped the files into post, they are individual mic signals on tracks 1 and 2, require encoding.  Checked the F8n again, stereo link for tracks 1 and 2 are set for M/S.   1 and 2 are also trim linked.
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #223 on: November 17, 2019, 12:08:23 PM »
OK, I'm sure this got covered back in the thread somewhere.  Apologies.  Still doesn't make total sense.

From the manual under headphone output, there's an MS setting that will play the tracks back in encoded stereo, but:

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This is disabled for stereo-linked tracks that have Stereo Link Mode set to MS Stereo Link.

Similar setting for Main and Sub outputs. 

I can't figure out why tracks 1/2 were not encoded into a stereo signal when MS Stereo Link was set under Input.  I suspected Trim Link might have something to do with it, but the manual says 

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The input levels of tracks set to MS Stereo Link will also be linked if those tracks are put into groups.

which I want, and it does not say that trim link negates the MS setting. 
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Re: Zoom F8 Recorder Part 3
« Reply #224 on: November 18, 2019, 09:52:43 AM »
I also keep the M/S pair channels trim-linked.. all 8 actually.

Should have some free time to play around with this more next week.
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