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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2009, 08:54:06 AM »
You are characterizing a technology as having a sound, when it does not.  Does a Shure KSM32 sound like a DPA4061?  Do both of these mics sound like the C4?

Fine - they sound like all my old radio shack electret mics...better?? Sorry - I forget there are actually good electrets mics...

Screw it - I stand by my orginal remarks - make total sense in the context...Im sure no one was confused...
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2009, 09:08:56 AM »
Heres some more C-2 recording from a pair of C-2's into a R09 sound ok to me...

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2007-11-27.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2008-08-06.flac16

...I can certainly hear the rooms in these, much bigger issue than the mics.

Sure I've got some radio shack mics that sound "ok" too...

Not to make it a contest - but I strongly recommend NEVER OWNING a pair of C-2s

I always thought it would be cool to get a C-2 kit and just use the parts...send the whole thing to Chris Church and have him basically build a pair of his mics in those bodies...cool kit if you were trying to DIY something...

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2009, 04:46:50 PM »
Heres some more C-2 recording from a pair of C-2's into a R09 sound ok to me...

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2007-11-27.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2008-08-06.flac16

...I can certainly hear the rooms in these, much bigger issue than the mics.

Sure I've got some radio shack mics that sound "ok" too...

Not to make it a contest - but I strongly recommend NEVER OWNING a pair of C-2s

I always thought it would be cool to get a C-2 kit and just use the parts...send the whole thing to Chris Church and have him basically build a pair of his mics in those bodies...cool kit if you were trying to DIY something...

So you don't like my duck recording?  ;D

Although I don't use them very often, my experience differs. I am quite happy with everything I have recorded with them, being aware of the self noise issue. I spend a lot of time doing things like burying mics under a pile of seed so chickens can peck at them etc so I am glad I have a pair of reasonable sounding mics that are expendable. They definitely sound better than the internal mics in most of the portable recorders out there. 

Anyhow, this post was about the C-4's, they seem to have improved the sensitivity and so (I expect) S/N ...

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2009, 02:18:21 PM »
Life is too short to record with cheap microphones. I do realize we all would like to find an  inexpensive mic set that would do the trick AND do it well...      Whats in your mic locker?
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2009, 02:33:11 PM »
I own a pair of mid seventies sony electrets that I LOVE!  ECM-260F to be exact.  I have made some great tapes with them and love them in the studio.
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2009, 02:40:31 PM »
Heres some more C-2 recording from a pair of C-2's into a R09 sound ok to me...

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2007-11-27.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2008-08-06.flac16

...I can certainly hear the rooms in these, much bigger issue than the mics.

Sure I've got some radio shack mics that sound "ok" too...

Not to make it a contest - but I strongly recommend NEVER OWNING a pair of C-2s

I always thought it would be cool to get a C-2 kit and just use the parts...send the whole thing to Chris Church and have him basically build a pair of his mics in those bodies...cool kit if you were trying to DIY something...
Yeah that would be cool..... I am now modifying 1inch mics like Studio projects and AT 2020 mics and putting in real capsules :)

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2009, 03:09:25 PM »
Heres some more C-2 recording from a pair of C-2's into a R09 sound ok to me...

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2007-11-27.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2008-08-06.flac16

...I can certainly hear the rooms in these, much bigger issue than the mics.

Sure I've got some radio shack mics that sound "ok" too...

Not to make it a contest - but I strongly recommend NEVER OWNING a pair of C-2s

I always thought it would be cool to get a C-2 kit and just use the parts...send the whole thing to Chris Church and have him basically build a pair of his mics in those bodies...cool kit if you were trying to DIY something...
Yeah that would be cool..... I am now modifying 1inch mics like Studio projects and AT 2020 mics and putting in real capsules :)



I'd like to hear more about this...
Make the mic heads small enough to use like "actives" and you'd have a real winner. Sign me up!

Chuck
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2009, 04:02:58 PM »
Heres some more C-2 recording from a pair of C-2's into a R09 sound ok to me...

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2007-11-27.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2008-08-06.flac16

...I can certainly hear the rooms in these, much bigger issue than the mics.

Sure I've got some radio shack mics that sound "ok" too...

Not to make it a contest - but I strongly recommend NEVER OWNING a pair of C-2s

I always thought it would be cool to get a C-2 kit and just use the parts...send the whole thing to Chris Church and have him basically build a pair of his mics in those bodies...cool kit if you were trying to DIY something...
Yeah that would be cool..... I am now modifying 1inch mics like Studio projects and AT 2020 mics and putting in real capsules :)



I'd like to hear more about this...
Make the mic heads small enough to use like "actives" and you'd have a real winner. Sign me up!

Chuck


I am working on that as we speak.
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2009, 04:03:36 PM »
Now there are two different budget mics called C4.
These look promising, but I guess they all do in the beginning.
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: (2) Microtech Gefell M300, (2) AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, (2) CAD GXL1200 (cardioid and sub-cardioid capsule & electronics mod), (2) Audix M1290-o, (2) Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, (2) Naiant MSH-1O, (2) Naiant AKG Active cables, (2) Church CA-11 (cardioid), (2) CAD C9, (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2009, 04:04:23 PM »


I am working on that as we speak.
Chris


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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: (2) Microtech Gefell M300, (2) AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, (2) CAD GXL1200 (cardioid and sub-cardioid capsule & electronics mod), (2) Audix M1290-o, (2) Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, (2) Naiant MSH-1O, (2) Naiant AKG Active cables, (2) Church CA-11 (cardioid), (2) CAD C9, (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, Tascam DR-680, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2009, 04:23:57 PM »
Heres some more C-2 recording from a pair of C-2's into a R09 sound ok to me...

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2007-11-27.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2008-08-06.flac16

...I can certainly hear the rooms in these, much bigger issue than the mics.

Sure I've got some radio shack mics that sound "ok" too...

Not to make it a contest - but I strongly recommend NEVER OWNING a pair of C-2s

I always thought it would be cool to get a C-2 kit and just use the parts...send the whole thing to Chris Church and have him basically build a pair of his mics in those bodies...cool kit if you were trying to DIY something...
Yeah that would be cool..... I am now modifying 1inch mics like Studio projects and AT 2020 mics and putting in real capsules :)



I'd like to hear more about this...
Make the mic heads small enough to use like "actives" and you'd have a real winner. Sign me up!

Chuck


I am working on that as we speak.
Chris

Hey Chris,

Sounds good.  If you get a chance, I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of the AT2000 series capsule.

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Re: NEW: Behringer C4 cardioid pencil condenser pair
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2009, 04:28:13 PM »
Heres some more C-2 recording from a pair of C-2's into a R09 sound ok to me...

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2007-11-27.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gertrude2008-08-06.flac16

...I can certainly hear the rooms in these, much bigger issue than the mics.

Sure I've got some radio shack mics that sound "ok" too...

Not to make it a contest - but I strongly recommend NEVER OWNING a pair of C-2s

I always thought it would be cool to get a C-2 kit and just use the parts...send the whole thing to Chris Church and have him basically build a pair of his mics in those bodies...cool kit if you were trying to DIY something...
Yeah that would be cool..... I am now modifying 1inch mics like Studio projects and AT 2020 mics and putting in real capsules :)



I'd like to hear more about this...
Make the mic heads small enough to use like "actives" and you'd have a real winner. Sign me up!

Chuck


I am working on that as we speak.
Chris

Hey Chris,

Sounds good.  If you get a chance, I wouldn't mind seeing a picture of the AT2000 series capsule.

  Richard


The 2020 is a TS-160 capsule
for warranty returns email me at
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