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48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« on: May 01, 2009, 11:38:12 AM »
I'd like to use my Oktava mics with a Oade ACM Marantz PMD 620, and it looks like the 620 only provides 5v of power for the mics.

Anyone able to help me with the power choices that I should be considering?

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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2009, 11:45:57 AM »
Depending on your budget, I would consider a pre-amp the provides 48V.

An inexpensive choice would be a used Edirol UA-5.

A more expensive (but better) option would be a Grace V2.
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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2009, 01:25:27 PM »
Depending on your budget, I would consider a pre-amp the provides 48V.

An inexpensive choice would be a used Edirol UA-5.

A more expensive (but better) option would be a Grace V2.

I'd like to stick with low-cost, but more importantly a stealthy solution, if possible.

I've been looking at the Core Sounds  2Phant device

http://www.core-sound.com/2Phant/1.php

and that seems to be everything I'm after, but don't know what folks experience is with it, or whether there are comparable alternatives at a lower price.



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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2009, 01:39:26 PM »
You might want to consider the Naiant/mshilarious "littlebox" mic pre.  It will provide 48v phantom power, is only 4.7"x3"x1.7" big, and should cost around $165.

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,118862.0.html

It isn't available yet, but I think Jon plans on having the prototype finished today and it should be available shortly (sorry to put the pressure on Jon!).  I'm planning on getting one as soon as they are available and being a guinnea pig, but I think it promises to be a nice little preamp, for probably the best price on the market.

Just an FYI.
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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2009, 01:45:23 PM »
The Denecke PS-2 is another cost-effective option, with stealth potential, but I've never heard one (that I know of) in combination with Oktava's before.


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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2009, 01:48:46 PM »
Is he actually building these preamps for sale?  I was under the impression he was selling a kit, where you had to put it together yourself. 

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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2009, 01:51:02 PM »
Also, to be more clear, I'd recommend like Fatah going the route of getting an external mic pre that also incorporates phantom power.

The Naiant/mshilarious box is one example, or a Sound Devices mixpre.  The core sound 2Phant and the Denecke PS-2 are just phantom power boxes, they do no incorporate mic preamps as well.
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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2009, 01:52:30 PM »
Depending on your budget, I would consider a pre-amp the provides 48V.

An inexpensive choice would be a used Edirol UA-5.

A more expensive (but better) option would be a Grace V2.

I'd like to stick with low-cost, but more importantly a stealthy solution, if possible.

I've been looking at the Core Sounds  2Phant device

http://www.core-sound.com/2Phant/1.php

and that seems to be everything I'm after, but don't know what folks experience is with it, or whether there are comparable alternatives at a lower price.





If he wanted to stealth, he be much better off with some smaller mics. I have stealthed with the Oktavas in the past, but the security at the club was clueless.

Also...my experience (along with many others) is that the customer service at Core-Sound is a bit lacking.

If I had the Oktavas (still) and that recorder I'd send the Oktavas and a used UA-5 from eBay to Chris Busman (www.busmanaudio.com) and have him mod both. That would be a sick rig for the money.

Second on the Denecke if he wants a smaller option and use the recorders pre-amp. If size isn't an issue...the external pre will sound better.
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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2009, 01:53:22 PM »
Is he actually building these preamps for sale?  I was under the impression he was selling a kit, where you had to put it together yourself. 

No, he plans on selling completed mic preamps.  His thread got a little sidetracked, and he also plans on making available a very stripped down mic preamp in kit form (which would not by the way include 48v phantom power that the OP wants).  The main project at hand however is to make a fully assembled mic preamp.
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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2009, 01:56:26 PM »
...and today's the day we get to watch him eat a windscreen, right? ;

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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2009, 05:16:25 PM »
I'd like to stick with low-cost, but more importantly a stealthy solution, if possible.

If the Naiant littlebox turns out as good as the rumour says, it's going to be the best stealth budget option.
But as always with new gear, you can't be sure until it actually materializes (remember fivefish...).

So if you're in a hurry, go get the PS2 first. They go for less than $100 in the YS, you can easily resell it later if you change your mind.
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Re: 48v phantom power choices for Oktava MK012?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2009, 10:19:18 PM »
Also...my experience (along with many others) is that the customer service at Core-Sound is a bit lacking.

Fatah Ruark-you're being too polite. Core-Sound generally makes good products but customer service is way more than a bit lacking. I had to e-mail Len 3 times to get a cable I had paid for and, although he came through with the cable, he questioned my integrity. And I have read a number of posts concerning similar experiences. Can't wait until Chris Church branches out into 48 volt phantom pre's. Sometimes you have to wait quite a while to receive your order from him and maybe even have to send a follow up e-mail after a month or so, but it is always worth the wait. And in the rare event that there is a problem with your order, he bends over backwards to make it right.

If you don't need to stealth, I love the MixPre.
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