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Which do you prefer?

Source A
3 (16.7%)
Source B
3 (16.7%)
No Preference (they sound the same)
12 (66.7%)

Total Members Voted: 17

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Offline Craig T

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NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« on: June 12, 2009, 01:57:19 PM »
People have been asking me for awhile what the difference is between the NBox and NBox+.  I finally got the gear together to make a comp so you can hear for yourselves (or can you?).  Please don't vote unless you actually hear the comp.

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,123135.0.html

mp3 here

The comp is formatted such that the recording flips between Source A and Source B every 20 seconds.

0:00-0:19 - Source A
0:20-0:39 - Source B
0:40-0:59 - Source A
1:00-1:19 - Source B
1:20-1:39 - Source A
1:40-1:59 - Source B
2:00-2:19 - Source A
2:20-2:39 - Source B
2:40-2:59 - Source A
3:00-3:19 - Source B
3:20-3:39 - Source A
3:40-3:54 - Source B
« Last Edit: June 15, 2009, 11:05:15 PM by Craig T »
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Re: NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2009, 02:16:41 PM »
Thanks Craig. Nice job. I have an Nbox and i am curious to see
the difference (if any).

I ran the mk-4>cmc6>aerco pretty close to your spot,
so it will be interesting to compare all of them.
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Re: NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 11:13:23 PM »
I think the comp proves there is an audible difference.  Any other opinions?  Dave hooked us up with a streaming mp3 link for those who lack the ability or patience to download the 24bit.
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Re: NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 11:41:22 PM »
Thanks for doing this as I am thinking about getting an Nbox for stealthing somewhere down the line!  Would have been nice to have pure A-B comparisons though.  :P

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Re: NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2009, 01:23:25 AM »
Thanks for doing this as I am thinking about getting an Nbox for stealthing somewhere down the line!  Would have been nice to have pure A-B comparisons though.  :P

I don't understand... If you don't like the A>B>A>B... style, the torrent has all the original tracks so you can roll your own comp.  What is "pure A-B"?
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Re: NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2009, 03:13:27 AM »
so I guess I am alone in choosing source A? (I wont give out which box it was)

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Re: NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2009, 03:22:10 AM »
I offered the Tapers.org streaming idea as a convenience but the mashing to MP3 for the stream might just eliminate the subtle difference I perceived.  The 24bit files are there to download and it might be faster than the torrent.  It is for me anyway.

I found that the B samples seemed to "open up" just a hair at the point of transition.  It's a very small distinction however.  I don't know which one is which but I voted "present" in the poll on the basis that I didn't really give it a lot of time...

Neither sounded spitty to me...
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Re: NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2009, 11:56:38 AM »
I don't understand... If you don't like the A>B>A>B... style, the torrent has all the original tracks so you can roll your own comp.  What is "pure A-B"?

Ah, I need to read more carefully...  :P


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Re: NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2009, 12:45:29 PM »
I can hear that there is a slight difference, but can't really say
i prefer one over the other. Just like i thought......my regular Nbox
is fine  8)
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Re: NBox vs. NBox+ : now with Poll
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2009, 07:37:02 PM »
I found that the B samples seemed to "open up" just a hair at the point of transition.
same here
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