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How to Say Neutrik
« on: June 24, 2009, 05:43:20 PM »
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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2009, 09:29:12 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdIiYaINV4c

makes sense if you think about it (assuming they are German and follow said rules). Neumann is the same way.

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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2009, 09:55:22 PM »
More importantly, the EMC-XLR could be the answer to cell phone interference!  $7-$9 each is a little high but I'd go for it.
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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 07:07:59 AM »
More importantly, the EMC-XLR could be the answer to cell phone interference!  $7-$9 each is a little high but I'd go for it.
how would the connector make the shield on your cable better?
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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2009, 10:37:01 AM »
As I read the product hype,  there seems to be some active circuitry at work in the connector...  From a Markertek product lilsting

"The EMC-XLR cable connector is the answer for a noise-safe audio signal connection. 3 pole male / female XLR cable connector with capacitive cable shield - shell connection and integrated LC-filter to avoid RF-interference and LF-noise. 360 degree shield contact on female connector ensures best possible shielding and chassis contact."

I took this LC-filter to be something other than a mechanical device but could easily be wrong and prolly am...
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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2009, 03:00:42 PM »
The EMC-XLR connectors have no active (i.e. requiring power) components.  The LC components (L=inductance, C=capacitance) are integrated in the sense that they are built into the connector.  The Ls, Cs (and probably Rs)  are small surface mounted components that probably create a LP filter of some sort, although I have not done enough investigation to find out the characteristics of that presumed LP filter.

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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2009, 03:53:17 PM »
^ I'm not sure if you are thinking that this product is snake oil or if there is something to it.  Do you mean LowPass in this ... "not done enough investigation to find out the characteristics of that presumed LP filter."  That suggests to me that there might be some sonic coloration if used.
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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2009, 10:26:19 AM »
No, I do not think it is snake oil; in fact, I own a few of these.  Based on this information:

http://www.greendotaudio.com/HTMLobj-1160/FXX-EMC.pdf

it appears the connector is filtering above about 100 MHz.  This is the range of FM radio, TV stations, cell phones, and a host of other RF noise.

What I was trying to say is I have not researched this connectors enough to say exactly what the characteristics of the presumed filter is.  The above link clears it up a little.

When I have used these connectors I have not heard any sonic coloration.

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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2009, 12:24:31 PM »
Nice, thanks for the elaboration.
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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 09:28:24 AM »
Noy-trick  (Noy pronounced like soy or boy)
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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2009, 12:32:34 AM »
Neutrik is a Swiss company but the name is German so the pronunciation in the video is correct.

willndmb wrote:

> how would the connector make the shield on your cable better? a chain is only as strong as its weakest link

??! The shield isn't what protects you from RFI. A balanced cable in which both signal leads have equal impedance and an even twist will resist RFI even with no shield at all, when feeding a balanced input. The interfering signal reaches the input with equal amplitude in both leads, and being a common-mode signal, it then cancels out. The shield plays no role in that.

The shield is part of the phantom powering circuit and it helps reject hum, buzz and crosstalk from other parallel-running cables as well as from power transformers, etc. that may be nearby. But the cable shield can equally well be a source of interference when it runs between two pieces of AC-powered equipment connected to different branch circuits, or even outlets on the same branch circuit that are some distance apart. Inevitably there will be a potential difference between the chassis of one piece of equipment and the chassis of the other one, and this results in AC current flowing through the shield between them.

The Neutrik EMC connectors are extremely effective at preventing noise due to current induced in the cable shield as well as "pin 1" problems which conduct the 60 Hz shield current into the audio circuitry.

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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2009, 07:14:00 AM »
Neutrik is a Swiss company but the name is German---- snip.



even more bizarre, Neutrik is from Liechtenstein (yes it exists)     :)

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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2009, 10:30:04 PM »
mooose, my apologies--you're quite right, it is Liechtensteinian rather than Swiss.
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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2009, 04:31:12 AM »
no need to apologize! why don't we open a competitor company in the Vatican?

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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2009, 08:44:19 AM »
no need to apologize! why don't we open a competitor company in the Vatican?

It all gets stranger...
Vatican is the building, "Holy See" is the actual name of the City-State around it     ;D

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Re: How to Say Neutrik
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2009, 12:47:11 AM »
no need to apologize! why don't we open a competitor company in the Vatican?

It all gets stranger...
Vatican is the building, "Holy See" is the actual name of the City-State around it     ;D

I believe that you may be incorrect.  The Vatican or Vatican City is considered to be a country, whereas the Holy See is the seat of the Catholic Church, which is in the Vatican.
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