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Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« on: December 28, 2010, 04:08:04 AM »
Didn't see any mentions of this series yet, but then again the aren't optimized for what we do.
FM-3 - announced Aug 2009, 3-channel mixer
FM-4 - announced Dec 2009, 4-channel mixer
FM-1 - announced Dec 2010, 1-channel preamp

Maybe the latest model could interest some, even though it's only one channel. Competing with SD MP-1 perhaps? The gain dial is hidden on the right side below.

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http://www.fostexinternational.com/docs/products/portable_mixers.shtml





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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 06:43:41 PM »
Here is a better pic of the front of the mono preamp. A pair of these could be used, depending on how they sound.


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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 08:01:24 PM »
The 3 & 4 channels look like wendts...rebranded maybe?

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2010, 05:17:42 AM »
Still quite a difference. Here's the X4 as a comparison. My impression is that the Fostex have a lot more buttons...

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 08:09:13 AM »
defenitely not a wendt


the inputs on the FM-4 are transformer balanced  - wonder how it sounds!
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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2010, 11:47:18 AM »
The 3 & 4 channels look like wendts...rebranded maybe?

I think you meant Sonosax.................metering is different tho....






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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2010, 11:15:59 AM »
Maybe there is not that many useable and clever layout for a portable mixer, hence the resemblance.  ;D

The fostex is bigger and heavier (almost one more pound with batteries) than a SX-M32 by the way. And the SX-M32 has electronically balanced inputs.

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2011, 06:57:25 AM »
looks cool from the specs ...... getting interested in it  ::)

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2011, 02:07:12 AM »
Just got my B&H gear email
here is their link
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/743723-REG/Fostex_FM_4_FM_4_4_In_2_Out_Portable_Field.html

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2011, 04:07:54 PM »
Had a play with the FM-3 and FM-4 today.  The preamps are nice (I preferred them to the Sound Devices 552, but not as much as the Sonosax).  The build quality seems solid too, however I'm not convinced by the metering.

I'm not sure why so many mixers have their meters on the right, if you're right handed and mixing from the bag your hand's in the way.


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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2011, 04:22:53 PM »
The preamps are nice (I preferred them to the Sound Devices 552, but not as much as the Sonosax).

just curious; what made you make those selections, e.g. "I like the Sonosax ones because of characteristics X, Y, and Z when compared to the Fostex"
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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2011, 06:30:37 PM »
The preamps are nice (I preferred them to the Sound Devices 552, but not as much as the Sonosax).

just curious; what made you make those selections, e.g. "I like the Sonosax ones because of characteristics X, Y, and Z when compared to the Fostex"

I never feel that confident at describing these things but I generally prefer pre's where they bring out the detail of what's being recorded, more "open", "clean" and "smooth" (sorry for the woolyness).  I think the SD had the most colouration out of the three (which some may like).  All three showed very low noise.

Wasn't an ideal test (quite a high noise environment with headphones)

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2011, 08:27:32 PM »
The preamps are nice (I preferred them to the Sound Devices 552, but not as much as the Sonosax).

just curious; what made you make those selections, e.g. "I like the Sonosax ones because of characteristics X, Y, and Z when compared to the Fostex"

I never feel that confident at describing these things but I generally prefer pre's where they bring out the detail of what's being recorded, more "open", "clean" and "smooth" (sorry for the woolyness).  I think the SD had the most colouration out of the three (which some may like).  All three showed very low noise.

Wasn't an ideal test (quite a high noise environment with headphones)

fair enough, was curious what your factor of focus was. Thanks.
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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 05:03:28 AM »
I'm not sure why so many mixers have their meters on the right, if you're right handed and mixing from the bag your hand's in the way.

Because they are designed for electronic news gathering, where the right hand is always manipulating a boompole and the mixing is usually done with the left hand,

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2011, 11:44:13 AM »
I'm not sure why so many mixers have their meters on the right, if you're right handed and mixing from the bag your hand's in the way.

Because they are designed for electronic news gathering, where the right hand is always manipulating a boompole and the mixing is usually done with the left hand,


Ah, I was taught to do it the other way round (on an SQN, which has meters on the left)

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2011, 02:03:03 PM »
booming with the left hand?

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2011, 02:56:58 PM »
by the way, anybody knows wich is the street price of a FM-1?

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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2011, 03:37:21 AM »
Doesn't seem to be shipping yet?!
It seems to have been available for pre-order on moogaudio.com, but the site is offline ATM.
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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2011, 10:05:06 PM »
It has a minimum gain sdetting of 30db tho. Thats a pretty hot signal and I bet its easy to overload. I think theyre made for ENG work
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Re: Fostex FM-1/FM-3/FM-4, new range of preamp/mixers
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2011, 02:13:49 PM »
booming with the left hand?

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Yes, not sure if this might be a British thing- was told to mix with the right as it's more dexterous.

It has a minimum gain sdetting of 30db tho. Thats a pretty hot signal and I bet its easy to overload. I think theyre made for ENG work


They are designed for ENG work, the limiter should prevent overloads though.  The output can be attenuated too

 

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