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Little Box
« on: April 04, 2011, 02:52:30 PM »
I have a question on the signal light (I think I figured out the other one completely(well probably not, but I have a good guess). while running the little box late in the second set the light came on full time green with no change on the output signal. The recording sounds fine so far as I can tell. Just wondering what happened. At some point I believe it will change colors when clipping.  Thank You!
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 03:00:18 PM »
the light confuses me too but i never payed attn because i use the recorder meters
anyway, looking forward to the answer
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 05:40:12 PM »
low batt when it stays on, i think
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 06:13:22 PM »
low batt when it stays on, i think

My first thought. But the batteries Dual 9 volt showed well into the good on my battery meter (actually about half of what a new battery shows). That would be a easy thing to understand since room for error is probably built in.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 07:15:13 PM »
Thank You Jon. That explanation makes perfect sense. By the way I really like the sound of the unit, Thank You for your work.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 07:26:25 PM »
Yeah, the LB rules :)
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 07:38:27 PM »
for ref purposes can we get a break down of the light posted here?
ie steady green = low battery
flashing = __
light comes on when __db is hit
and so on??
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Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 07:41:23 PM »
for ref purposes can we get a break down of the light posted here?
ie steady green = low battery
flashing = __
light comes on when __db is hit
and so on??
thanks

1st off, how many lights does your LB have? Mine has 3
Recording Gear:
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Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
SanDisk 128gb Extreme Pro & 64gb Ultra Plus

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 08:58:21 PM »
thanks jon
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
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Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2011, 11:21:09 PM »
See, I'm COLORBLIND, for real, so those colors mean NOTHING to me :(
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2011, 12:22:13 AM »
See, I'm COLORBLIND, for real, so those colors mean NOTHING to me :(

green/red or blue/yellow?
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 12:19:50 AM »
See, I'm COLORBLIND, for real, so those colors mean NOTHING to me :(

green/red or blue/yellow?

More like blue/purple, green/red, orange/red, etc, etc, etc :(

The red comes on much brighter than the green.  I can do separate green and red LEDs on request as well.

Jon, are you talking about the level meter in the middle? I can kinda see a diff between the green/red :) As long as I'm not overloading my 722/M10, I dont care what color they are :P ;D
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Recording Gear:
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Shanling Audio M5s | Sony NW-A35 DAP's

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2011, 02:22:22 PM »
Just got my Littlebox in mail ... right in time for Wanee. But mine did not come with RCA outs. Rather it's got the minijack (two of them). I'm in a bind ... what will I need to connect to a R-09?
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2011, 03:05:38 PM »
1/8m > 1/8m
any store will sell it in a pinch - walmart, radio shack
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2011, 03:05:44 PM »
Just got my Littlebox in mail ... right in time for Wanee. But mine did not come with RCA outs. Rather it's got the minijack (two of them). I'm in a bind ... what will I need to connect to a R-09?

I guess you hadn't ordered it with 1/8" (x2) outs?  Do you know if they are both mono outs?  Then all you need is a mono (x2) > stereo (x1) adapter cable to plug into your R-09. 

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2011, 03:08:26 PM »
Just got my Littlebox in mail ... right in time for Wanee. But mine did not come with RCA outs. Rather it's got the minijack (two of them). I'm in a bind ... what will I need to connect to a R-09?

I guess you hadn't ordered it with 1/8" (x2) outs?  Do you know if they are both mono outs?  Then all you need is a mono (x2) > stereo (x1) adapter cable to plug into your R-09.
good point
i assumed one was an out an one was plug in power or something else
if it is 2 outs you need a dual 1/8m > stereo 1/8m
which walmart will not sell but radio shack should
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2011, 03:13:36 PM »
I thought I was getting RCA outs.

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2011, 04:13:50 PM »
Thanks, Jon. The box looks awesome. There's no quality difference in RCA vs. mini, is there?

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2011, 04:34:22 PM »
Thanks, Jon. The box looks awesome. There's no quality difference in RCA vs. mini, is there?

Nope
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2011, 04:35:02 PM »
What did you get done to your LB ???
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2011, 07:14:01 PM »
1/8m > 1/8m
any store will sell it in a pinch - walmart, radio shack

Radio Shack even has a one-footer available... it works great with my LS-10 and the 1/4"-20 stud that I had added to my Littlebox. I had managed to lose the longer cable that Olympus provided, but I found I like the shorter cable better.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2011, 10:58:41 PM »
I thought I was getting RCA outs.

I've been thinking about a LB, but wondered whether to get RCA or 1/8" out. Even with a recorder that has 1/8" in, RCA outs seem sturdier even if you have to buy a specific cable, and there is little chance of the cables rotating with either straight or RA connectors. Straight 1/8" plugs put stress on the deck, and RA needs to be taped in place to avoid static from rotation. Curious if any users have a different opinion from past experience.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2011, 11:03:44 PM »
I have both on my Littlebox and use the RCAs

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2011, 11:13:10 PM »
I have both on my Littlebox and use the RCAs
Recording Gear:
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Schoeps 250/0 KCY's X2 ->
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Shanling Audio M5s | Sony NW-A35 DAP's

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2011, 12:30:11 AM »
^^^ditto.

Never had a problem with the RCA outs.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2011, 02:55:44 AM »
Mine's just got RCA outs
see my rig pic thread:http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=143728.0

you'll notice in my custom cable I used the Switchcraft Right Angle RCA's and they are solid and do NOT rotate, -- I only worry out the 1/8 TRS  mini plug on the M-10 end...
so far I totally love it!

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2011, 04:28:11 PM »
Mine's just got RCA outs
see my rig pic thread:http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=143728.0

you'll notice in my custom cable I used the Switchcraft Right Angle RCA's and they are solid and do NOT rotate, -- I only worry out the 1/8 TRS  mini plug on the M-10 end...
so far I totally love it!

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I also have a rt-angle RCA[Switchcraft]>rt-angle 1/8"[Switchcraft] that I run from my LB>M10, and they are both rock solid on both ends!
Recording Gear:
Schoeps MK 4 (MP) & MK 41V (MP) Capsules ->
Schoeps 250/0 KCY's X2 ->
Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's x2 ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's x2 ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
SanDisk 128gb Extreme Pro & 64gb Ultra Plus

Portable Playback Gear:
Campfire Audio Andromeda & Dorado IEM's ->
Linum G2 SuperBax & Bax 3.5mm | FiiO LC 2.5c 2.5mm ->
Shanling Audio M5s | Sony NW-A35 DAP's

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2011, 02:53:05 PM »
Is there anyone out there using a LB going into a PMD-661?
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2011, 04:18:13 PM »
Is there anyone out there using a LB going into a PMD-661?
Give me a few weeks. I may pull that trigger, almost did before Furthur in Hampton. I do have a 660.
Sony C38B's --> Lunatec V2-->PMD661
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2011, 01:54:20 PM »
Is there anyone out there using a LB going into a PMD-661?

Would there be any significant advantages, unless you have an LB with non-standard mic powering?
The 661 supplies P48, and mic gain should be quiet enough. Or is LB gain even less noisy?
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2011, 02:42:35 PM »
My reasoning for using an external pre for the PMD-661 is because I want a different 'flavour' (and the input/output transformer options)  than what my stock unit can provide. Many TS'ers have used different pres in front of their units, so I figured why can't I use a LBox/bigBox? I almost always do shows which are open taping, so although I like the flexiblity of it being a standalone unit, I don't mind the extra piece of gear in the bag.

Now I just have to convince the better-half that I need one ::)! But I digress....

As far as your question goes, I haven't seen any comparisons to determine which mic gain is quieter. But in my experience the PMD-661's, especially the modded ones, can handle most recording situations requiring P48.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2011, 07:58:32 PM »
IMHO, my LB is just as quiet as my 722 Phantom ;)
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2011, 08:31:26 PM »
The 660 I have does the power for my mics. I noticed the how warm the deck is in the connection area while running the combination. So I went to look at my other powering options. I also do remember the Stewart supplies sounding better than the internal 9 volt. In the end I now have the 2 channel Big Box with XLR line out and a mini out dual 9-volt sleds and I am very happy with the sound. It is a great improvement over the 660's pre and phantom stages (sonically) and I don't have the power supply issues (that unit ate AA's; though that was fixed with the tekenon). The 661 has a better meter and A/D from what I can see. So I am still thinking.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2011, 08:41:19 PM »
IMHO, my LB is just as quiet as my 722 Phantom ;)
at a fraction of the cost  :P
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2011, 10:22:23 PM »
IMHO, my LB is just as quiet as my 722 Phantom ;)
at a fraction of the cost  :P

Agreed! Ive been thinking of selling my 722 actually :P
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2011, 11:13:16 PM »
I think you can benefit greatly be upgrading to the 661, if your still thinking about it. You can do 24 bit, the tekkeon can power it for 15+ hours, it has a s/pdif in and the XLR line-in has a pro line level of +4, so that should give lots of headroom.

Good to hear the bigbox works for you.

BTW, sent my specs (LB in a biggerbox case (2 XLR ins, 2 XLR outs)) into Jon, waiting for a response...
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2011, 11:38:35 PM »
Agreed! Ive been thinking of selling my 722 actually :P

I'm quite happy with my LB > LS-10 setup - happy enough that any upgrades are going to involve microphones rather than the recorder or preamp. I wish I could afford that pair of 4011s in the Yard Sale... :drool: My budget says otherwise, though.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2011, 07:34:17 PM »
I thought I was getting RCA outs.
but wondered whether to get RCA or 1/8" out.
I got both of them. Why not get everything you would ever need in a LB. They are all custom anyway.

Have 1/8 out on front and RCA on back. USe 1/8 for Edirolro9 and RCA's to Tascam DR-680 with a RCA to XLR adapter.

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« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2011, 07:51:51 PM »
I wish I could afford that pair of 4011s in the Yard Sale... :drool: My budget says otherwise, though.

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2011, 08:15:05 PM »
Am I the only one who has one with xlr in and out ?

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2011, 09:11:18 PM »
Am I the only one who has one with xlr in and out ?

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Highly unlikely. What you're describing would most likely be called a bigger box.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2011, 07:50:06 AM »
Am I the only one who has one with xlr in and out ?

Steve
Mine says Bigbox on it and has  XLR in's and outs. But it is two channel unlike the unit on his site. I like it very much. Oh it also has the dual battery sled, which I need with those big old Sony's.
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« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2011, 08:33:42 AM »
Am I the only one who has one with xlr in and out ?

Steve

Highly unlikely. What you're describing would most likely be called a bigger box.
Don't think jon can fit a xlr in and out in a LB but can in a big box. I have the BB with xlr in and out and input and output transformers. Those seem to keep the bass more under control.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2011, 02:10:34 PM »
Question: Im about to order a lb of me very own from the website there. It says that if you want the extended depth case to specify 2x 9v or 4x AA. How and where do i specify ??? Also want to make sure I'm getting the RCA outs. What the dilly yo?
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2011, 03:02:05 PM »
I can confirm the above. I have started the process of building a littlebox v1.5 with 2 xlr in and 2 xlr out. It needs the BB case which is an extra $35.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2011, 03:18:01 PM »
Question: Im about to order a lb of me very own from the website there. It says that if you want the extended depth case to specify 2x 9v or 4x AA. How and where do i specify ??? Also want to make sure I'm getting the RCA outs. What the dilly yo?
when i ordered mine i put the specifics in the notes section in the paypal payment box
for example (i put everything)
xlr in
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2011, 04:21:56 PM »
Question: Im about to order a lb of me very own from the website there. It says that if you want the extended depth case to specify 2x 9v or 4x AA. How and where do i specify ??? Also want to make sure I'm getting the RCA outs. What the dilly yo?

When I ordered mine I just e-mailed Jon (his e-mail is on his website somewhere) and spelled out exactly what I wanted.  He then gave me a price.  Like you I was confused with the website ordering process so I found this to be the easiest way to make sure I was getting exactly what I wanted.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2011, 04:47:06 PM »
Dang, well I just ordered mine, and i never saw a space to put notes by the time I ordered. Also cant find the email on the website :P

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2011, 04:50:45 PM »
Hey Chris, the littlebox or biggerbox are great!

His email is music@naiant.com

When I ordered mine, I mailed a money order in so he totalled everything up and I just got a money order for that amount. Not sure how it would work if you've already placed the order but I'm sure Jon can figure something out.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2011, 05:05:47 PM »
Thanks sean! I'm about to vomit with excitment, Just ordered my little box, and emailed jon. Plus I just put in an order for a brand new M10. Its on guys! :) :) :)
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2011, 10:55:00 PM »
Thanks sean! I'm about to vomit with excitment, Just ordered my little box, and emailed jon. Plus I just put in an order for a brand new M10. Its on guys! :) :) :)

You will LOVE that setup ;) Did you get out xformers ???
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« Reply #53 on: April 28, 2011, 08:23:28 AM »
Thanks sean! I'm about to vomit with excitment, Just ordered my little box, and emailed jon. Plus I just put in an order for a brand new M10. Its on guys! :) :) :)

You will LOVE that setup ;) Did you get out xformers ???
Highly recommend the xformers too?

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« Reply #54 on: April 28, 2011, 09:41:26 AM »
I didn't get them. I'm not really clear on what the advantage of having them is  ???
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #55 on: April 28, 2011, 10:10:43 AM »
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« Reply #56 on: April 28, 2011, 11:19:51 AM »
Thanks for all the info you guys! Out Transformers it is.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #57 on: April 28, 2011, 12:01:53 PM »
Got with Jon on email!!!

My LB:
XLR In
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front panel aux out
output xformers
dual 9v battery tray

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #58 on: April 28, 2011, 09:09:52 PM »
Got with Jon on email!!!

My LB:
XLR In
RCA out
front panel aux out
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