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Re: Little Box
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2011, 04:18:13 PM »
Is there anyone out there using a LB going into a PMD-661?
Give me a few weeks. I may pull that trigger, almost did before Furthur in Hampton. I do have a 660.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2011, 01:54:20 PM »
Is there anyone out there using a LB going into a PMD-661?

Would there be any significant advantages, unless you have an LB with non-standard mic powering?
The 661 supplies P48, and mic gain should be quiet enough. Or is LB gain even less noisy?
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2011, 02:42:35 PM »
My reasoning for using an external pre for the PMD-661 is because I want a different 'flavour' (and the input/output transformer options)  than what my stock unit can provide. Many TS'ers have used different pres in front of their units, so I figured why can't I use a LBox/bigBox? I almost always do shows which are open taping, so although I like the flexiblity of it being a standalone unit, I don't mind the extra piece of gear in the bag.

Now I just have to convince the better-half that I need one ::)! But I digress....

As far as your question goes, I haven't seen any comparisons to determine which mic gain is quieter. But in my experience the PMD-661's, especially the modded ones, can handle most recording situations requiring P48.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2011, 07:58:32 PM »
IMHO, my LB is just as quiet as my 722 Phantom ;)
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2011, 08:31:26 PM »
The 660 I have does the power for my mics. I noticed the how warm the deck is in the connection area while running the combination. So I went to look at my other powering options. I also do remember the Stewart supplies sounding better than the internal 9 volt. In the end I now have the 2 channel Big Box with XLR line out and a mini out dual 9-volt sleds and I am very happy with the sound. It is a great improvement over the 660's pre and phantom stages (sonically) and I don't have the power supply issues (that unit ate AA's; though that was fixed with the tekenon). The 661 has a better meter and A/D from what I can see. So I am still thinking.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2011, 08:41:19 PM »
IMHO, my LB is just as quiet as my 722 Phantom ;)
at a fraction of the cost  :P
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2011, 10:22:23 PM »
IMHO, my LB is just as quiet as my 722 Phantom ;)
at a fraction of the cost  :P

Agreed! Ive been thinking of selling my 722 actually :P
Recording Rigs:
Schoeps MK4's & MK41's ->
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Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2011, 11:13:16 PM »
I think you can benefit greatly be upgrading to the 661, if your still thinking about it. You can do 24 bit, the tekkeon can power it for 15+ hours, it has a s/pdif in and the XLR line-in has a pro line level of +4, so that should give lots of headroom.

Good to hear the bigbox works for you.

BTW, sent my specs (LB in a biggerbox case (2 XLR ins, 2 XLR outs)) into Jon, waiting for a response...
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2011, 11:38:35 PM »
Agreed! Ive been thinking of selling my 722 actually :P

I'm quite happy with my LB > LS-10 setup - happy enough that any upgrades are going to involve microphones rather than the recorder or preamp. I wish I could afford that pair of 4011s in the Yard Sale... :drool: My budget says otherwise, though.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2011, 07:34:17 PM »
I thought I was getting RCA outs.
but wondered whether to get RCA or 1/8" out.
I got both of them. Why not get everything you would ever need in a LB. They are all custom anyway.

Have 1/8 out on front and RCA on back. USe 1/8 for Edirolro9 and RCA's to Tascam DR-680 with a RCA to XLR adapter.

Now bought a Big box for XLR outs and also had jon put in the 1/8 out for edirol for second recording (redundancy)
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2011, 07:51:51 PM »
I wish I could afford that pair of 4011s in the Yard Sale... :drool: My budget says otherwise, though.

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2011, 08:15:05 PM »
Am I the only one who has one with xlr in and out ?

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Re: Little Box
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2011, 09:11:18 PM »
Am I the only one who has one with xlr in and out ?

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Highly unlikely. What you're describing would most likely be called a bigger box.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2011, 07:50:06 AM »
Am I the only one who has one with xlr in and out ?

Steve
Mine says Bigbox on it and has  XLR in's and outs. But it is two channel unlike the unit on his site. I like it very much. Oh it also has the dual battery sled, which I need with those big old Sony's.
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Re: Little Box
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2011, 08:33:42 AM »
Am I the only one who has one with xlr in and out ?

Steve

Highly unlikely. What you're describing would most likely be called a bigger box.
Don't think jon can fit a xlr in and out in a LB but can in a big box. I have the BB with xlr in and out and input and output transformers. Those seem to keep the bass more under control.
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