Become a Site Supporter and Never see Ads again!

Author Topic: Dpa 4022> TINYBOX  (Read 2313 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline MarkE

  • Trade Count: (8)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 512
  • Gender: Male
Dpa 4022> TINYBOX
« on: May 23, 2011, 11:49:37 AM »
      So,I have some dpa4022's that I want to try and stealth with. But the Tinybox is a 9v source. My Nevetons are out of commission at the moment, and had a stealth only show coming up. I still have my Sonics, but out of curiosity, I tried the 4022's w/ the Tinybox,and it powered up, I had moving levels on my R-09hr. So I laid them next to my home speaker and recorded for a couple minutes loudly, then played back on the computer... PERFECT!

    That night, I brought them to the show and taped. Although the recording itself isnt that good (Was WAY off axis from the speakers and on the side.. The actual recording  (About 2 hrs, loud rock show) was fine.. So in my unprofessional opinion, the dpa's work fine with Tinybox's voltage. When Naiant comes out w/ a 48v version,I think Iwill still get one, but.... This is another small capsule> Tinybox> deck combo with a nice small footprint..

YMMV,
MarkE
   
open: Dpa 4022 > Naiant Midbox> Edirol R-09hr or iRiver H120
Stealth : Sonic Studios DSM-6S > Custom Battery Box> Edirol R-09hr
Stealth : Nevaton MCE400 > Naiant Tinybox > Edirol R-09hr

Offline SmokinJoe

  • Trade Count: (63)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 4201
  • Gender: Male
  • "75 and sunny"... life is so much simpler.
    • uploads to archive.org
Re: Dpa 4022> TINYBOX
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 01:00:38 PM »
The 4022's are pre-polorized (electret) condensers, as are AT853's, Nak300's, Earthworks, and many other mics.  The power for most electrets is to bias the the mic preamp circuitry, not to polarize the capsule, so it makes sense that it could work. Whenever I hear someone say "electrets suck", I point to DPA's and Earthworks to demonstrate that's not always true.

How well do 4022's perform with 9V?  I can't begin to guess.   I have some 2 wire AT853's, which are well known to brickwall at a loud show.  One time at a typically loud show (Trey) I used a 12V battery box for one set, which gives just enough headroom to avoid brickwalling.  For the next set I used a preamp with 8 - 9 volts and it did brickwall a little, it was barely audible, but it showed up clearly when looking at the waveform in Audacity.  So in my case that extra voltage helps the headroom enough to matter.  Is that the same with the 4022's?  I have no idea.  Look at the wave form in Audacity or whatever, and see if it looks limited on the peaks.  If it does, then 9V isn't quite enough.  If it looks fine, than probably it is fine.

Mics: Schoeps MK4 & CMC5's / Gefell M200's & M210's / ADK-TL / DPA4061's
Pres: V3 / ST9100
Decks: Oade Concert Mod R4Pro / R09 / R05
Big Rig: split snake > Focusrite & Presonus Pres > ADAT > Alesis HD-24 > Protools 11
Daughter's rig:  AT4050ST > Busman Hybrid R4
Photo: Nikon D700's, 2.8 Zooms, and Zeiss primes
Playback: Raspberry Pi > Modi2 Uber > Magni2 > HD650

Offline MarkE

  • Trade Count: (8)
  • Taperssection Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 512
  • Gender: Male
Re: Dpa 4022> TINYBOX
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 02:31:29 PM »
I wish I recorded a band at a place that I was in the proper place. It was reserved seating and we had these awesome balcony seats great for the visual, but on the outside of speakers pointed inward. so it sounds like it sounded at the seats, hollow, but looking at the wavforms(?) everything is clean peaks arent distorted, and the volume was loud, our off axis ruined it. So I will give it a thumbs up.. YAY.. Now what is a good way to wear the mics? They're bigger than any other stealthy mic I've used.. PM's if any good solutions..
MarkE
open: Dpa 4022 > Naiant Midbox> Edirol R-09hr or iRiver H120
Stealth : Sonic Studios DSM-6S > Custom Battery Box> Edirol R-09hr
Stealth : Nevaton MCE400 > Naiant Tinybox > Edirol R-09hr

Offline johnw

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3789
  • Gender: Male
    • My cd List
Re: Dpa 4022> TINYBOX
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 04:21:53 PM »
EDIT: Sorry, I thought I sent that as a PM. Damn iphone. It's gone now. Very sorry about that.  :(
« Last Edit: May 24, 2011, 03:11:26 PM by johnw »
Schoeps MK41 & MK4V  |  Schoeps CMC6, Schoeps KCY, AKI/2C, PFA, Nbox Cable/PFA  |  Grace V2, Nbox Platinum  |  SD744T, SD MixPre 6, Sony PCM M10

Canon 16-35mm/2.8L mkii, 24-70mm/2.8L, 70-200mm/2.8L IS, 50mm/1.8 mkii, 135mm/2L, 100mm/2.8L IS, Sigma 35mm/1.4 A  |  Canon 5D mk4

Offline darktrain

  • Trade Count: (715)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 2875
  • Gender: Male
  • Whats next?
Re: Dpa 4022> TINYBOX
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 04:52:07 PM »
johnw , thats good info but like Mark was asking, probably better suited for a PM

Offline johnw

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Needs to get out more...
  • *****
  • Posts: 3789
  • Gender: Male
    • My cd List
Re: Dpa 4022> TINYBOX
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 03:09:23 PM »
Sorry guys, I thought I sent that as a PM. Apologies.
Schoeps MK41 & MK4V  |  Schoeps CMC6, Schoeps KCY, AKI/2C, PFA, Nbox Cable/PFA  |  Grace V2, Nbox Platinum  |  SD744T, SD MixPre 6, Sony PCM M10

Canon 16-35mm/2.8L mkii, 24-70mm/2.8L, 70-200mm/2.8L IS, 50mm/1.8 mkii, 135mm/2L, 100mm/2.8L IS, Sigma 35mm/1.4 A  |  Canon 5D mk4

 

RSS | Mobile
Page created in 0.099 seconds with 33 queries.
© 2002-2019 Taperssection.com
Powered by SMF