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Re: Schoeps KCY>littlebox?
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2011, 07:55:24 PM »
Im psyched to get a KCY input on my LB. MK41>KCY>LB[w/ out transformers] will SMOKE ;D
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Re: Schoeps KCY>littlebox?
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2011, 08:37:33 PM »
Kinda oppositely random...............   but could a KCY "5pin binder plug" be put on an Nbox cable?
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Re: Schoeps KCY>littlebox?
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2011, 10:44:49 PM »
From what I understand, even if you put the Binder plug on the Nbox cable, it won't be compatible with a KCY input and it won't be able to plug into the Nbox (unless you put the reciprocal Binder jack on it).

Nick said that he alters the electronics of the KCY cable so it will only function with the Nbox.

Kinda oppositely random...............   but could a KCY "5pin binder plug" be put on an Nbox cable?
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Re: Schoeps KCY>littlebox?
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2011, 10:48:57 PM »
I would think it is possible to that the nbox only has a single power lead instead of 2 with the Schoeps solution designed 40+ years ago.   So maybe nbox is just +18, audio, gnd?
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Re: Schoeps KCY>littlebox?
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2011, 10:52:50 PM »
From what I understand, even if you put the Binder plug on the Nbox, it won't be compatible with a KCY input and it won't be able to plug into the Nbox (unless you put the reciprocal Binder jack on it).

Nick said that he alters the electronics of the KCY cable so it will only function with the Nbox.

Kinda oppositely random...............   but could a KCY "5pin binder plug" be put on an Nbox cable?

I'm talkin about the Nbox cable terminating into a KCY binder.....  so that the Nbox cable could be used with other preamps.
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Re: Schoeps KCY>littlebox?
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2011, 12:45:56 AM »
Just another reason why I bought a brand new KCY over the NBox route, plus the NBox uses 9v batts, and altho the lemosax does as well, I can use external power on my lemosax :)
Recording Rigs:
Schoeps MK4's & MK41's ->
Schoeps | NBob 250/0 KCY's ->
Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
SanDisk 128gb Extreme Pro & 2x 64gb Ultra Plus

Portable Playback Rigs:
Campfire Audio Andromeda & Dorado | Westone (2nd Generation) UM Pro 30 IEM's ->
Linum G2 SuperBax & Bax |  2x CA/ALO SPC Litz | Sony MUC-M2BT1 LDAC MMCX Cables ->
Shanling M5s & M0 | Sony NW-A35 DAP's

DAW:
Dell Inspiron 5570-5521 SLV Laptop
(Pentium i5 Processor/8gb RAM/256gb SSD)

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Re: Schoeps KCY>littlebox?
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2011, 01:27:57 AM »
Cable termination is mostly irrelevant because you can make an adapter cable with a Switchcraft EN3 connector to virtually any other type of connector possible.

What matters is the electronics of the preamp/power source and the supply voltages sent to both the MK capsule for polarization and the FET electronics inside the MK connector on the cables. Simply changing the EN3 connector to a Binder 711 wouldn't make it compatible with any other preamp. You could try it with a lemosax/vms5u/etc., but I doubt the FET voltage will be high enough since they're all meant to work with the +6v KCY cables.

Swapping the connector would only be useful if you intended your primary preamp to be a tinybox/littlebox or PFA configured with 60v/16v supply rails (45v/16v for the PFA), I believe. You could still use the nbox with an adapter cable when needed, but you'd have the convenience of being able to run directly into whatever box you were using.

This is all assuming a lot, but the more I think about it the more I'm convinced this setup will work.

I'm talkin about the Nbox cable terminating into a KCY binder.....  so that the Nbox cable could be used with other preamps.

 

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