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Pres still in production
« on: December 30, 2011, 08:44:06 AM »
Most of the P48 pres people here like to use have been discontinued!  The only pres I can think of still in production are:

Currently still for sale

Scheops VSM 5U
Neve Portico 5012
SD 302
SD mixpre D
SD USBpre 2
Aerco MP2 (Long build times)
Tinybox v2
Audioroot Femto
Audioroot upre MKII


Discontinued

V2
V3
Sonosax
PSP2
PSP3
Mix 2000
M148
M248
MV 100
Mini Me
Mini MP
UA-5
SD MP2
SD Mixpre
Shure FP24
Wendt X2
Littlebox
Midbox



Seems like a very small list for current production, while the discontinued list is really long.  Wondering if I'm forgetting something??

Edit: updated list I might have forgotten a few on the discontinued
« Last Edit: September 01, 2014, 04:47:54 PM by jbell »
Microtech Gefell M20's> Nbob KCY> Naiant PFA(60V)> Sound Devices Mixpre-6

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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 09:47:27 AM »
Mixpre is discontinued, too.   ;)
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 09:58:22 AM »
Mixpre is discontinued, too.   ;)

A couple vendors still have them NIB though.
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 10:34:48 AM »
Man, that's kind of depressing.

On the high end side, I think the Neve Portico 5012 is still in production.  On the low end side (to me anyway), Graham Patten is still making the DMic-24, though I don't think tapers ever really used that.  The predecessor Dmic-20 was used a lot, but that fell out of favor as other preamps came available.
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 10:37:13 AM »
Technically a versatile 3 channel mixer and not really popular here.

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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 10:41:21 AM »
Also, technically the N-box is a preamp, though only for schoeps. oops, not 48v -- 60v though :P

Schoeps also makes the VMS 5 U preamp, which is 48v and I believe can be used for non-schoeps mics.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2011, 10:43:38 AM by Todd R »
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 10:55:18 AM »
Always wanted to try the FMR Audio RNP.  Seems to get generally very good reviews on GS.com.  Had a conversation w/ someone here one time who said he wasn't that impressed w/ it, though.
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 11:54:47 AM »
There's taht Cooper pre that pops up on YS every once in a while...  Looks tasty, but its discontinued in a big way...

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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 12:12:40 PM »
The lowly Denecke AD20/PS2 is still kickin!


Fostex has some portable Preamps...you never hear of anyone on TS using them...because of the price I would guess

FM-3 a Three Channel Pre...$1500


FM-4 a Four Channel Pre...$2500


Sony too...DMXP01 $2300


Lots of strange names on the Field Mixer page of B&H

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Field-Mixers/ci/4962/N/4291085968

Then there are the Stand alone Firewire/USB Computer items like the Focusrite Saffire 24 Pre/AD converter


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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 02:11:05 PM »
I was sticking with pres that are commonly used by tapers!!
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 02:15:39 PM »
hello from Strasbourg Alsace France !

do you know the AETA MIXY ?
very good gear!

happy new year !
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2011, 04:52:24 PM »
Fostex has some portable Preamps...you never hear of anyone on TS using them...because of the price I would guess

while true, there are some that you've referenced that largely were only adopted by tapers out of necessity (because the onboard preamps in recorders were bad) and a result of being at the right place and right time in the market for what was being produced, not necessarily by choice. For example, the sx-m2 was almost $1400 brand new, which is about what that fostex clocks in around, but we don't see people using the fostex because for that price now, it doesn't fill a need at a competitive price. That's the advancement of technology (where many onboard preamps have improved). Now the market is looking at mixers and multi-track preamps for that price point (one exception below). I think that largely the function of what we do had fit within an existing market so that market was big enough to create enough demand. Now, that market has moved but our function hasn't and we don't carry enough oomph to generate a ton of products. As a result, boutique shops like Jon or Chris can move in and reap hay.

I was sticking with pres that are commonly used by tapers!!

I think it's largely a skewed snapshot of time due to the aforementioned reasons. Nothing wrong with that necessarily, just something to keep in mind. There are current products, but they may not be made by the same players or fill our needs quite as well as older stuff.

So if you are considering the mixy (which I would argue tapers generally don't use), then I'd add that Sonosax makes a 3ch (2ch post-mixer out) preamp & ADC. (the sx-m32 I think or something like that), and Nagra makes a 2ch preamp (the EMP). All that stuff is top shelf though...
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 05:04:18 PM »
Mixpre is discontinued, too.   ;)

Wow, that sucks.  Guess the MixPre-D stole its thunder for only about 100 bucks more.  I see it listed as "discontinued" on the B&H website but nothing listed on the Sound Devices site.  Was there official word from SD?  Scratch that: found it listed on SD's "Discontinued Products" page.
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 05:11:29 PM »
The Denecke AD-20 is not listed on their price list (dated January 2011).

http://www.denecke.com/Support/Downloads/Documents/2011%20Price%20List_0111.pdf

Also the Sound Devices USBPre 1.5 is discontinued.
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 05:41:03 PM »
I think he's only listing P48 preamps, but you do have a good eye, there was the Oade 118 which was an 18v version of the 148.
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