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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2011, 07:49:35 PM »
If you are including the mini-me then you should also add the ad-1000


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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2011, 08:34:07 PM »
Wow, I have used a TON of preamps listed here. Bummer that most of them are discontinued :(
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2011, 08:37:09 PM »
The Denecke AD-20 is not listed on their price list (dated January 2011).

http://www.denecke.com/Support/Downloads/Documents/2011%20Price%20List_0111.pdf

Another one bites the dust...

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B&H must have some old stock on hand ^
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2011, 09:55:11 PM »
^Yeah I noticed that too...Posthorn still has it listed as well but I'm sure it's just new old stock.

It would be sweet if they would come out with a Denecke AD-24.

I used to love running the PS-2/AD-20 combo.

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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2011, 10:32:51 PM »
Didn't someone here try the Audient MICO? Didn't play well with the D50, iirc?
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2011, 10:39:30 PM »
drewloo, I've used the FMR "Real Nice Preamp" and like it a lot. Its only drawback for me is that it lacks continuously variable gain controls--though some people might consider that an advantage since it makes it easy to match gains between channels.

I've measured its noise performance at typical gain settings (for me), in the 30-40 dB range. At those settings it is one of the quietest preamps I've ever tested. I want to point that out because the spec sheet noise ratings for almost every preamp I've ever seen (including this one) are based on turning the gain all the way up--and in that setting, this preamp falls a few dB short of the best. Their manual even apologizes for that a little, and when the preamp was introduced, people talked about that as if it were a real shortcoming.

I suppose it could be for some specialized applications, but I never set mike preamps to 60+ dB of gain for any actual live recording, and I'll bet most other people here don't, either. It all goes to show that giving just a single signal-to-noise ratio value is pretty useless. What I really want to know is the noise figure of the preamp across its gain range--for each possible gain setting, by how many dB does its actual noise level exceed the theoretical minimum?

The attached graph shows the noise performance of a professional studio console preamp from the 1980s whose manufacturer (Neumann) did show that information. The gain setting (in dB) is shown on the horizontal axis; the corresponding signal-to-noise ratio in dB can be read along the vertical axis, while the noise figure can be seen as the vertical distance between the two diagonal lines at any given gain setting.

I wish other preamp manufacturers would adopt a similar approach. If FMR were to publish a graph for like this for the "Real Nice Preamp," it would show especially good performance in the middle of the gain range, where I think most people are likely to use it.

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P.S.: The M Audio DMP3 is still shown on their Web site--not exactly what I'd call a rugged preamp, and I don't know how RF-immune it is given the way it's built, but it's nice in other respects, and it has solid enough 48-Volt phantom powering to drive a pair of Schoeps mikes properly.
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2011, 01:19:28 AM »
Is it possible pre-amps are fading to have manafactures focus on the digital mics like discussed here before?
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2011, 01:23:21 AM »
Is it possible pre-amps are fading to have manafactures focus on the digital mics like discussed here before?

I wondered about that, digital mics are coming, but slowly. Maybe manufacturers are reading the writing on the wall, maybe it's just a declining need for just a 2ch unit. Nagra only made theirs because they had users complain about the 2 line only channels on their flagship recorder, so the new preamp was an attempt to compliment that.
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2011, 10:04:58 AM »
It appears the FMR "Really Nice Preamp" is powered by simply plugging in the power cable.  Is that correct?

It's nice that the unit can accept and output balanced/unbalanced signals as well as be powered by AC/DC over a wide range of voltages, regardless of polarity. 
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2011, 12:26:45 PM »
The Denecke AD-20 is not listed on their price list (dated January 2011).

http://www.denecke.com/Support/Downloads/Documents/2011%20Price%20List_0111.pdf

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B&H must have some old stock on hand ^

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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2012, 12:57:06 PM »
It seems that the trend for most "in the field mic preamp"manufacturers is to get out of "stand alone" preamp market and produce/market a "Preamp with Recorder"
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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2012, 02:39:22 PM »
It seems that the trend for most "in the field mic preamp"manufacturers is to get out of "stand alone" preamp market and produce/market a "Preamp with Recorder"

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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2012, 03:29:20 PM »
Your avatar sucks posternutballs.

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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2012, 03:36:57 PM »
Personally I don't care about the jersey...just can't stand the guy wearing it.  Or his band. ;D

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Re: Pres still in production
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2012, 03:49:19 PM »
Nope, still sucks. 

 

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