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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2012, 12:26:43 PM »
Last night at ABB I showed up and my tinybox power switched got bumped on and had absolutely no battery. I found an outlet and was able to charge for about 35 minutes. I was able to tape the entire show without the low battery light even coming on!

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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2012, 05:36:11 PM »
For those with v2.1 or v2.2 tinyboxes not aware, I have a recall to correct discharge of the battery when the unit is off.  The tinyboxes affected are those with rear panel charge indicator LEDs (all were produced this summer).  If you don't have a rear panel LED, this does not affect your unit.


What kind of turnaround time am I looking at for the self discharge repair?  I want to run the new rig for Phish in KC so may wait till after that to send it back to you. 

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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2012, 10:42:20 AM »
I have v1 of the Tinybox.  I did some reading and never really saw any accurate battery times, or none that I felt really reflected my set up.  With the changes in revisions, etc. I figured that the most accurate info was going to be to charge it to 100%, hit record, and let the puppy run.  I started recording with my CCM4>Tinybox>M10 in front of one of my VR-4jr's and Foobar playing random master recordings. 

I started around 8pm last night and it was still going at 8am this morning when I left for work.  The light on my Tinybox was still green.

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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2012, 12:08:05 PM »
Note that v1s did *not* have a precision low-battery reference as v1.5 and v2 do.

Meaning what exactly?  No LED color change?  Will the light still be green when the battery life is discharged to the point where it will no longer power the CCM4's? 

I really should have walked up to see if the meters on the M10 were still bouncing. 

For what it is worth, my stereo isn't really turned up that loud and my neighbors are from Tennessee so they may like hours and hours of live bluegrass anyway.   :P

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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2012, 01:24:41 PM »
CCM4>Tinybox v1>M10

15.5 hours on a full charge.
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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2012, 08:21:04 PM »
Related question- what is approximate charge time of a fully or nearly depleted battery on the tinybox?
I arrived at a show, was getting 'suited up' before entering the venue and discovered my Tinybox Littlebox (with dual internal rechargeables) had been left on and had no juice.  I convinced the venue to let me plug in the charger (I bring a bag of stuff I might need, leave it in the car, thankfully the charger was in there) in the box office, let it charge for a little over 30 minutes (before I got too nervous the show would start) and had enough charge to record the first 60 minute set no problem.  Between sets charged it some more and recorded the second set with no problem.

I am really impressed and happy about how fast the Littlebox internals recharge.  I also have a Tinybox with internal rechargeables and italso seems to charge fast and last a long time.
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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2012, 08:55:54 AM »
After draining my Tinybox of its 15.5 hours of play time I plugged it in at lunch and went back to work.  I came home after work and it was fully charged.  I will have to watch it closer to determine how fast but as easyed mentions the TB charges fast and lasts a long time. 
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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2012, 11:06:34 AM »
Jon, I know on your web site for the v1 you say to use 8.4v regulated DC in to charge to prevent a fire.  If I used a 9v DVD battery with the proper plug wired center + would it really be that hazardous?  I am trying to figure out a way to charge it in out in the wild and 8.4v is awfully close to a 9v DVD battery.
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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2012, 01:57:47 PM »
No, that is not possible with versions before v2.1, because the charge current must be regulated.  You have to use the supplied charger.  Using a DVD battery would supply a very large charge current and excess charge voltage to the battery.  I do not know if the battery's internal protection circuit would prevent damage in that case.

v2.1 and later can be recharged with external batteries.

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Re: Naiant tinybox/littlebox battery times and related questions
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2013, 08:50:06 PM »
How much batt life is left when the TB first hits red?
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