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favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« on: February 04, 2012, 08:05:32 PM »
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 09:18:40 PM »
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2012, 10:19:45 PM »
None. The R44 is pretty neutral and quiet.
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 01:34:50 AM »
None. The R44 is pretty neutral and quiet.

Yup.  And one less box to carry around.

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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 01:38:59 AM »
None. The R44 is pretty neutral and quiet.

How those avantone ck-1.'s sound with the r44
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 04:46:52 AM »
None. The R44 is pretty neutral and quiet.

How those avantone ck-1.'s sound with the r44

I've only run them once so far, and found them to be pretty much the same as with my SD MixPre. Full sounding, but still a bit shiny. I ended up doing a mix with omnis (Nak CP3s) to fatten up the bottom. If I'd only had the Avantone pull, I would've been happy:

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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 11:19:55 AM »
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 11:49:42 AM »
while I think it really matters which mics it's paired with, I did like the Busman UA-5 with my LD mics.  And I would run my SD MP-2 in front even though it's not digi out.

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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 03:00:20 PM »
The deck has fine pres on its own; the oade mod I have brightens it up a tad.  I think it sounds better with DPAs and AKGs than Schoeps; I feel that the MK41s can sound a touch harsh on the Oade mod pres.

I like the USBPre2. Easy to use, good meters, light, easy to power, transparent and clean, and cheaper than the Grace boxes.

I run the Naiant littlebox into it with my KCY setup and while I admittedly do not like the sound quite as much as the SD box the price and convenience are hard to beat, and the transformers do good things especially with the MK41s. I've made great recordings with both though.
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 04:01:24 PM »
The deck has fine pres on its own; the oade mod I have brightens it up a tad.  I think it sounds better with DPAs and AKGs than Schoeps; I feel that the MK41s can sound a touch harsh on the Oade mod pres.
I agree, i have an oade mod and i have been really disappointed in the results running the Schoeps without a pre. My better results are using my ACM  V-3.....best results using the V-3 > AD2K.
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2012, 10:32:42 PM »
I like the KCY Littlebox w/ Output Transformers. In fact, mine should be here anyday now ;D
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2012, 02:45:12 AM »
I was thinkin' of upgrading gear, was lookin at bsc2 actives > v2 > r44
mics: Audix M1245a-HC; AKG SE300B/CK91; Naiant X-O (hanging in the sweet spot @ Quixote's True Blue)
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2012, 10:14:40 AM »
I was thinkin' of upgrading gear, was lookin at bsc2 actives > v2 > r44

I've never run those Busman mics but certainly the V2>R-44 combo is nice. I think the analog inputs of the stock deck are certainly quiet enough to run line-in from the V2 without worry.
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 08:36:18 AM »
Just curious, would Mixpre-D (digital out) to R44 (digital in) do anything? I mean, make it 'better', or would it just be more of the same?
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Re: favorite pre to run in front of r-44?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 08:50:15 AM »
Just curious, would Mixpre-D (digital out) to R44 (digital in) do anything? I mean, make it 'better', or would it just be more of the same?

I prefer the a/d conversion via the Sound Devices box when compared to the R44.   I'd suggest a USBPre 2 to the Mixpre-D as the digital output is via coax instead of AES making for easier cabling. 
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