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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #420 on: October 09, 2018, 08:17:15 PM »
I bought a -12db set of XLRs just for this, and never needed them. They were good for other stuff, but the R44 takes a hot board really well.

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #421 on: October 10, 2018, 11:42:54 PM »
i guess im in the club.
among live taping, I also enjoy a nice quadraphonic transfer.
Do theline outs on the r-44 all playback at once?

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #422 on: October 11, 2018, 09:18:49 AM »
^ Yes.  I primarily use mine these days as a 4 channel LCRS playback deck for files that I've recorded onto a DR2d.

You'll need to enter the menu to set the outputs to individual instead of monitor (or similar terminology, I don't have it in front of me). In either case all four RCA outputs are active, but if set to monitor you'll get L/R monitor output from both 1/2 and from 3/4, mirroring the headphone output. 

It provides control over output level for each individual channel.  In addition you can switch in the graphic EQ, or other functions such as Mid/Side, compression, etc.  Those "effects" functions can be switched in and controlled as individual channels, as channel pairs, or as a 4 channel group.

Note: All this functionality is disappointedly absent on the R-88, which provides no control whatsoever over its 8 direct channel outputs.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #423 on: October 11, 2018, 03:10:02 PM »
Good to hear.

What do you prefer about the dr-2d?  The size?

I have both... but just picked up the dr-44 because the 2d (though small). Always required a bit more effort and other gear...

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #424 on: October 11, 2018, 03:48:15 PM »
That's it- the small size of the DR2d, which is the main requirement for that particular application, and secondarily it's IR remote operation capability.  In almost every other way the R-44 is superior.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #425 on: October 17, 2018, 11:07:02 PM »
just got my hands on the r-44.  smaller than i thought, but plastic for sure.  I am going to break this thing :iamwithstupid:

I see there is a specific bag, but is there any other protective accessories.

Like some gum rubber band type things that might fit around the sides. seems like there might be something.

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #426 on: October 18, 2018, 11:07:48 AM »
just got my hands on the r-44.  smaller than i thought, but plastic for sure.  I am going to break this thing :iamwithstupid:

I see there is a specific bag, but is there any other protective accessories.

Like some gum rubber band type things that might fit around the sides. seems like there might be something.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #427 on: October 18, 2018, 12:01:53 PM »
wow. that might be the stuff.

did you put that on your r-44 permanently?

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #428 on: Today at 04:46:38 PM »
Looks likes anything goes here, so long as I’m packing an r-44... I’m wondering about some record setting/microphone set up.

I record music at a small club usually very loud young band with a mono PA system.

I used to bring a tascam Dr-2d, an 8 channel mixer, put mics all over the place and get a board feed.  Got some great stuff, but just too cumbersome.
Enter dr-44 - I have had one for 6 days.

In the same setting I just want to bring the R-44, three electrovoice 654a’s, and one extra xlr for the mono board feed.
(These are the only mice I have, so that’s what I use)

I am wondering how I should place the mics/what record set up I should chose.


The stage is completely on the left side of a shotgun room, with the right a path to the fire exit.
In a sort of triangle,  I close mic in front of the guitar amp stage right.  Then one mic above the drums stage right facing stage left.  Then the third mic close miced in front of the bass cabinet on stage left.


I am confused about what, if any, should I stereo pair, or 4channel wav. Or 4sepatate mono.
Is this an application to bring quadraphonic recording of terrible indibands to a national spotlight?


Should I stereo the guitar and bass. And center the overhead drum and mono vocal in post.
Is there a smart way to utilize the forced internal mixing settings to my advantage.
Minimal daw editing/ panning would be awesome.


I also thought about not close micing,  but the omnis make everything seem far away.


So...that’s why I’m here.  Thanks for the tips.




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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #429 on: Today at 05:37:49 PM »
I'd set the R-44 up 4-channel mono to record.  Line them all up in Audacity later, and assign each mono source to either mono, left or right, and mix away.

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