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MME Warning
« on: October 02, 2002, 10:29:41 PM »
Just spoke to Gary at Apogee today.

WARNING!  Do not use your MME with an Eco-Charge 12v battery.  Mine and apparently 1 other have been destroyed because of it.  Apogee is taking care of this problem for free for us, but it destroyed mine.  

Apogee is trying to resolve the problem.  I'll let you know as I get more info.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2002, 11:30:55 PM »
What the f**k!? Can you clarify what happened. I am so pissed off at Apogee right now. Has anybody written a stern but polite letter to those folks? I've dealt with them a ton in the past and they were always very cool but this MMe shit is getting silly. They should definetly make this up to those of us who have been waiting for *months* past the scheduled delivery date. I cannot believe this....

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2002, 11:44:33 AM »
The MMe will work down to 8v.  Taking a 12v SLA down to 8v can damage it.  I think there are some "deep discharge" SLA's that may be able to do this without damage.
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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2002, 12:27:26 PM »
i rest my case.  i have been saying the whole time that i think apogee flailed with this one.  they rushed to get it out and didn't work out the bugs.  glad i got my AD1000, glad i clipped my mme order, and glad i got a V3 on the way.  sorry to see people having to deal with all this bullshit.  i hope it all works out.  lets just wait and see what mr. grace has in store for us.  cant really run my mouth till it gets here, so lets hope for the best.  we need someone to figure it out, and do it right, obviously apogee can't.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2002, 12:46:08 PM »
Um... please clarify what you mean by this jpschust.  I don't have eco-charge brand batteries, I wired my own powersonic 12v/7ah SLA's, but they so far have worked fine with the Mini-Me.  Others obviously have worked fine too, since I've seen several other people running their MME's in the field now.


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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2002, 12:52:56 PM »
Actually John, you ran the minime at alpine with an actual Eco-charge brand 12V.  I'm not understanding here what the deal is, but it sounds like just a few of the Mini-Me's were wired wrong internally or something.

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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2002, 01:06:07 PM »
I know I ran it with the ecocharge at alpine.  Here is what happened exactly- Scofield and Denson- ran it with 2 12v 7ah's.  Ran it with one for scofield one for denson.  Powered it down between each of them.  When denson was over my bag smelled odd.  I looked down and it was full of smoke.  I thought someone had thrown a cigarette in my bag.  I took everything out very fast and unplugged everything from my MME.  Smoke was pouring out the back.  Needless to say I called the retailer I got mine from and they contacted apogee for me.  Apogee has it now (apogee paid for the postage and everything) and they are taking care of it.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2002, 01:19:17 PM »
d'oh!  that sucks.  any of your other gear get damaged?

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2002, 01:21:11 PM »
All the rest of my gear is fine.  Smells a bit sitll, but its fine.  The MME did a great job of containing everything to itself.  Want to know the oddest damn part of it?  I kept feeling the casing of the MME to check for heat movement in it during the show- I was curious as to how it was comparing with the AD1000 (which you can fry eggs bacon and gravy on).  Barely even felt warm.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2002, 01:23:26 PM »
that so f%#ked jonny. man i am sorry to hear it.  i hope everything works out for you.  im so over apogee.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2002, 01:31:22 PM »
OK I think I've found a solution that will please everyone.  V3 with Apogee AD convertor.  Sound good? Can we get the Oade's on it as a Mod?

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2002, 01:53:43 PM »
works for me.  hell, i'll do the mod, i got som duct tape and a soldering iron.  hahaha

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2002, 01:58:54 PM »
hey wait, thats what I m running u89>v3>ad1k

gotta run the m148 in there too. i mean that thing is a tank and sounds great as well, i can never get rid of it
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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2002, 02:08:51 PM »
Not the same thing... Uv22HR chip vs uv22.  I want the new AD chip :-)  

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2002, 02:17:05 PM »
ah, so v3>mini me?
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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2002, 02:20:50 PM »
Well Id like the MME chip in the v3, but that may be the route I have to go.  But hell, now how am I gonna power this goddamn thing.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2002, 02:22:36 PM »
MD forever!

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2002, 02:27:20 PM »
but jonny i thought you didn't like the v2/3 pre amp.  whats up?  just settling or what?

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2002, 02:29:51 PM »
I am not the biggest of fan no, but it seems to be my only easily obtainable option.  The sonosaxes are hard as hell to come by and the oades arent much better.  I'm also very curious as to how the new ad chip colours the v2's sound.  

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2002, 02:34:34 PM »
we can only wait and see.  it is supposed to be shipping this end of this week, hopefully no more delays.  although the more bugs they get out the better.  i'll keep everyone informed, as i should be getting the first shipment.  # 1 or 2 on the list with a certain retailer.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2002, 02:39:04 PM »
MD forever!

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2002, 02:46:36 PM »
ahhh the desert drunk!  yeah sold it to you. hahaha

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2002, 02:49:27 PM »
tood check out your picture, posted under the images section, finger in the air, no ticket, wookin again.

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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2002, 04:17:40 PM »
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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2002, 04:22:31 PM »
holy shit, that's a real site??  too funny...

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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2002, 04:24:36 PM »
you bet.   ;D
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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2002, 10:53:57 PM »
damn, glad I ordered a prodat 12 volt battery for my mini-me. At least they are fixing the issue and any damage caused to the unit. Is it a eco-charge issue or a appoge issue? Do the new 12volt eco-charge batteries have this issue?
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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2002, 11:12:26 PM »
Its an apogee issue im sure of it.  I told them I want a new unit not a fixed one and I want it NOW!

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2002, 11:30:43 PM »
ya, you tell em jonny.  tell em to keep their junk, and get a V3.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2002, 01:37:59 AM »
Dont I get a three snaps up and a twist thing ?  Id just like to see you do that ry!

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2002, 01:42:33 AM »
was that an in living color reference?? nice.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2002, 01:43:03 AM »
Damn skippy.  Not as good as The State, but great nonetheless

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2002, 01:47:17 AM »
hell yeah!  the state was the shit.  not sure if you've ever seen this but here's a site that has all the clips avaliable for d/l.

http://www.statemedia.net/state.php

you ever see wet hot american summer?  great flick, it's most of the cast of the state (i think they produced it actually) with a few other random celebrities.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2002, 01:51:31 AM »
Seen it.  I actually own every State episode on video.  6 videos at that.

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« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2002, 01:52:31 AM »
holy shit, i'm impressed.  i bow to your superior state knowledge.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2002, 01:53:23 AM »
btw, mme warning->inliving color->the state...should have seen that coming.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2002, 02:09:08 AM »
Nice tag by your name Barry... or is it Lavonne?

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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2002, 02:11:45 AM »
Lavonne...excuse me while I go whisper sweet nothin's to my puddin'

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2002, 10:50:20 PM »
Man the mini-me this weekend and I used 2 different types of batteries. Both where pro-dat but one was a 12 volt and one was an 8 volt. 12 volt ran fine, 8 volt also ran fine, only ran it for 2 hours, but it had enought jouce left in the 8 volt to run my da-p1 for another 4 hours. The thing did not go up in smoke and I used a pro-dat cable that eco-charge is now trying to blame on the burn out. Either way it ran fine, I really like it and the converter in it is fantastic. Since I have a V2 I find no reason to use the pre in the mini. The V2 and mini-me combo is killer and using the calpots for line in is not that bad at all, used 25 db of gain from the V2 and was able to get very good levels with minimial adjustments on the mini-me.
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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2002, 09:41:44 PM »
alright...i have a Rev A minime, #108, and it's been working like a champ. i have a panasonic 12V/7Ah battery that is home wired with 4pin XLR connectors. i then made my own cable with the correct DC Coaxial Plug (2.1mm ID x 5.5mm OD) and it WORKS GREAT!!!! i have yet to have one problem with either power or the minime in any regard. in fact, i love the box and would not change to anything at this point.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2002, 10:46:15 PM »
The end result that it was a few ver A mme's... very few though.  I got screwed, im glad others havent, cause when that unit works it rules!

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2002, 03:20:23 AM »
soo, i got this mini disc hard wired to my mme and everything blew up.  i did it myself, where did i go wrong??  :-\??

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2002, 02:04:28 PM »
d000000d ... just call apogee, i'm sure they'll hook you up.

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2002, 02:13:43 PM »
Gary's a good man.  He'll help you with your md problems. The apogee manual however suggests using nothing more than a marantz tape deck.  

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2002, 02:16:56 PM »
really?  it only suggests a tape deck?  that makes absolutely no sense...you've got to be kidding me...

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2002, 02:37:07 PM »
yep, read the manual :-P

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2002, 02:41:24 PM »
If they recommend using only analog equip., why is the a/d there?

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2002, 02:41:53 PM »
duh, a>d>a :-)

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Re:MME Warning
« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2002, 02:43:05 PM »
point well taken...

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« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2002, 02:44:29 PM »
damn im funny

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« Reply #50 on: November 08, 2002, 02:47:08 PM »
 :o

 

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