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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2012, 06:21:36 PM »
Q for Jon:  so then did the LB's with unbalanced outs also use the 600:600 output transformer, same as the TB? 

Q for Steve: have you listened any to the output trafo LB sources, compared to the TB sound you like?  Does that sound as good as the TB to you?

That might be the difference between us. I really like the sound of my LB with output trafos. I've only really listened to TB v1 without output trafos, so I don't have any comment on the TB v2 sound. Hard for me to really comment much on any TB or LB sound compared to my LB, as I have one of only a few LB's outfitted with Burr-Brown inamps, and my LB now has output trafos. So while I really like the sound I get, I have a pretty unique LB.
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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2012, 09:04:41 PM »
Todd I had a llittlebox with output transformers.  A month or so ago I pulled down three tbv2.0 sources and they all sounded outstanding...better than anything I`d gotten with my lb.  When checking on the website to try and determine if there were any technical differences, I saw the specs on the transformers were different so that led me to the incorrect conclusion that a transformer change was responsible for the great sound.  Jons message today makes obvious that the was another factor contributing to what I was hearing on those three sources.  At this point i'm really not sure what the difference was...but I intend to contact the person that provided me the links to ask them what they did to capture such great sounding recordings.  Im thinking that it must have been about being in the sweet spot of a sweet sounding room.
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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2012, 08:05:05 PM »
Well, the main reason I like my LB is because it has XLR INS ;)
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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2012, 08:24:59 PM »
The TB is great (this is my 3rd!), but unfortunately the lack of locking I/O just doesn't cut it so I had Jon make a custom box. I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to call this thing, but it's essentially a TB v2.0 in a Littlebox case. :)

What I really like about it is that it fits perfectly into my gear bag sitting upright. It's got a 5-pin mini xlr for balanced output (in addition to the standard 3.5mm out), but otherwise is a standard TB.



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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2012, 08:35:57 PM »
Nice bro!
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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2012, 08:55:07 PM »
The TB is great (this is my 3rd!), but unfortunately the lack of locking I/O just doesn't cut it

my tb input is so tight i thought i was going to break it getting it out, there is no way you could undo it by mistake
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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2012, 09:06:31 PM »
Hhhmmm.. a tinybox with a 4AA bat sled would be neat...
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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2012, 09:24:23 PM »
Hhhmmm.. a tinybox with a 4AA bat sled would be neat...

Hells yeah ;D
Recording Gear:
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Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
SanDisk 128gb Extreme Pro & 64gb Ultra Plus

Portable Playback Gear:
Campfire Audio Andromeda & Dorado IEM's ->
Linum G2 SuperBax & Bax 3.5mm | FiiO LC 2.5c 2.5mm ->
Shanling Audio M5s | Sony NW-A35 DAP's

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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2012, 09:33:55 PM »
Hhhmmm.. a tinybox with a 4AA bat sled would be neat...

I would favor a much larger Li-Ion internal battery. Cram enough mAh's in there and you could power a P48 setup for a week straight. :)

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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2012, 10:37:13 PM »
Hhhmmm.. a tinybox with a 4AA bat sled would be neat...

I would favor a much larger Li-Ion internal battery. Cram enough mAh's in there and you could power a P48 setup for a week straight. :)

True. I just dont trust Li-On batteries after having multiple ones failing when I had my old 722 :P
Recording Gear:
Schoeps MK 4 (MP) & MK 41V (MP) Capsules ->
Schoeps 250/0 KCY's X2 ->
Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's x2 ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's x2 ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
SanDisk 128gb Extreme Pro & 64gb Ultra Plus

Portable Playback Gear:
Campfire Audio Andromeda & Dorado IEM's ->
Linum G2 SuperBax & Bax 3.5mm | FiiO LC 2.5c 2.5mm ->
Shanling Audio M5s | Sony NW-A35 DAP's

DAW:
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Re: Tinybox vs Littlebox
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2012, 02:13:28 AM »
Hhhmmm.. a tinybox with a 4AA bat sled would be neat...

I would favor a much larger Li-Ion internal battery. Cram enough mAh's in there and you could power a P48 setup for a week straight. :)

True. I just dont trust Li-On batteries after having multiple ones failing when I had my old 722 :P

My LB has dual LI-Ions, and can power my Milab VM44's for about 30 hours at 48v which is awesome for festies!
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