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Which preamp sounds better to you?

I prefer preamp 1
8 (42.1%)
I prefer preamp 2
10 (52.6%)
I can't tell the difference
0 (0%)
I like them both equally
1 (5.3%)

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Author Topic: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly (new samples)  (Read 15805 times)

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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly
« Reply #75 on: January 29, 2013, 11:27:36 AM »
I feel the comp is not fair to my gear at all and I said so.

Why would you feel that, when Jon apparently doesn't feel the same?  Have you already decided, without being told which is which, that your rpeamp is going to "lose" the comparison?  Apparently you still have lots of orders, your lead times don't seem to be getting shorter.
What does any of this have to do with comp? Or is this just another stab at me personally? what is this we cant agree that this is a flawed comp so you have to attack me and my business? Grow up.
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly
« Reply #76 on: January 29, 2013, 11:56:26 AM »
If anyone needs to grow up it's you.  Quit whining.  Make your product.  Stand behind it.  If this "flawed" comp shows Jon's preamp to be "better", take it for what it is.  Improve your product if you feel you need to, otherwise carry on. 

You make good gear, I understand you're proud of it.  It doesn't mean there isn't better stuff out there.  Flawed or not, this is the comparison that was presented.  Get over it.  And as I said - how do you know yours is going to "lose"? 

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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly
« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2013, 12:12:05 AM »
are we gonna here which is which soon?

I hope.... ;D
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly
« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2013, 12:35:41 AM »
are we gonna here which is which soon?

I hope.... ;D

Me too ;D
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2013, 10:55:33 AM »
are we gonna here which is which soon?

I hope.... ;D

Me too ;D

I'm open taping Les Racquet tomorrow, I'll be posting new samples on Tuesday or so. This will be in a room that I've successfully run omnis from the sweet spot in the past, so that should satisfy at least some of the critiques. It all depends on how the audience behaves. The other area involves posting samples with the same average RMS for the samples, I'm not sure how to do that with Audacity, so any advice is welcome.
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly
« Reply #80 on: February 06, 2013, 08:09:17 PM »
are we gonna here which is which soon?

I hope.... ;D

Me too ;D

I'm open taping Les Racquet tomorrow, I'll be posting new samples on Tuesday or so. This will be in a room that I've successfully run omnis from the sweet spot in the past, so that should satisfy at least some of the critiques. It all depends on how the audience behaves. The other area involves posting samples with the same average RMS for the samples, I'm not sure how to do that with Audacity, so any advice is welcome.

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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly
« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2013, 10:31:52 PM »
are we gonna here which is which soon?

I hope.... ;D

bump...
tell us which is which please.
no new sample needed in this comp just answers.
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly (new samples)
« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2013, 02:36:15 AM »
OK, sorry there's been a lull on this, but in 2 outings I had taper error and in one case the samples just sucked. Anyway, I'm pretty happy with these ones, I think they're both good sources. I would be happy bringing home either one. Same as before, I've added two new songs with each preamp, this time with two different bands. Same link as before, the new files are song3preampX and song4preampX with both 24bit flacs and 320kbs mp3s. I'll let folks that haven't voted yet have a day or two before I do the reveal.

http://www.mediafire.com/?m1fbrlwdmad5f

Edit to add: These samples came from any open taping situation with a 3' spread, ~8-9' high, ~20' from stage.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2013, 02:45:07 AM by bryonsos »
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly (new samples)
« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2013, 11:03:37 PM »
I like preamp 1 better. Has a better low end and fuller sound, while at the same time maintaining a crisp highend
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Portable Playback Rigs:
Sony NW-A35 Walkman & Shanling M0 ->
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly (new samples)
« Reply #84 on: February 15, 2013, 08:25:37 AM »
Well, nobody has been downloading the new samples so I locked the poll. It's too bad, they are quite different from the first set. Anyway, in both cases:

Preamp 1 = CA Ugly
Preamp 2 = Naiant Tinyhead
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly (new samples)
« Reply #85 on: February 15, 2013, 12:46:11 PM »
Thanks Bryon!
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly (new samples)
« Reply #86 on: February 15, 2013, 01:59:55 PM »
Thanks for staying tuned Bean! I also posted some observations about the Tinyhead in the retail thread:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=159857.msg2022300#msg2022300
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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly (new samples)
« Reply #87 on: February 15, 2013, 02:27:44 PM »
Thanks as well Bryon.  I know none of this is 100% scientific but it's still interesting none-the-less.  Thanks again for your work with the comps.

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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly (new samples)
« Reply #88 on: February 15, 2013, 02:27:57 PM »
I took a listen, albeit very brief, to the new tracks and thought they were much closer to each other than the original comp. Thanks for doing this and I'd recommend everyone still download the new tracks.

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Re: Naiant Tinyhead vs. CA-Ugly (new samples)
« Reply #89 on: February 15, 2013, 04:02:41 PM »
Looks like I like the CA-Ugly the best ;D
Recording Rigs:
Schoeps MK4's & MK41's ->
Schoeps & NBob 250/05 KCY's ->
Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Sony NW-A35 Walkman & Shanling M0 ->
Linum G2 SuperBax & Bax & Westone Bluetooth MMCX Cables ->
Campfire Audio Andromeda & Westone UM Pro 30 (G1 & G2) IEM's -> Comply Isolation+ Memory Foam Tips

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