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Author Topic: [COMP] Schoeps KC5>CMC6 vs. KCY>tinybox - the valid comp you've been craving!  (Read 1596 times)

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Offline acidjack

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It's a PA system recording, yes, but hey, that's what most of us do....

hi and lo and I set this up as follows:

Sources are:
Schoeps MK5 (matched pair, cardiod, DIN)>KCY>tinybox (v2, output transformers)>DR-680
Schoeps MK5 (matched pair, cardiod, DIN)>KC5>CMC6>DR-680

Comments I'll respond to now
"So this is really the 680s pre vs. the tinybox".  Well, yes and no. I suppose it'd be nice to have had a VMS box so we could have done 2 KCY solutions and tested them at once, but I don't own one.  KCY>PFA is not really a fair test since the PFA itself is a somewhat unknown variable.  The goal here was to compare a common "low cost" Schoeps solution - KCY>tinybox -- vs an all-genuine Schoeps solution.  If anyone wants to shoot a Lemosax or a VMS my way, please be my guest.
"This is not a valid comp because the house mix/PA sucks".  I have nothing further to say to you.  Reading about PA system recording is probably a fruitless endeavor for you, so I'm not really sure why you're on taperssection.

Mounting:
Both sets were in kwonbars, one on top of the other.  See pic.  The pic doesn't show this well, but height was ~7.5ft which is about that far or a bit more below the venue ceiling (i.e., ceiling reflections should not be a huge issue)

Processing:
Card>iMac>Both loaded into Audition CS 5.5>selections normalized>export to WAV>xAct>FLAC/MP3

The two selections are the same song.  Available in both MP3 and FLAC. I did not do soundcloud as I think it's too lossy for anything other than a very general demo.

MP3:
Source A - http://tinyurl.com/d8nzfbv
Source B - http://tinyurl.com/cqtjut6

FLAC:
Source A - http://tinyurl.com/bmkucuq
Source B - http://tinyurl.com/cxu5d9z

Enjoy!  Feedback appreciated.
Mics: Schoeps MK4V, MK41V, MK5, MK22> CMC6, KCY 250/5, KC5, NBob; MBHO MBP603/KA200N, AT 3031, DPA 4061 w/ d:vice, Naiant X-X, AT 853c, shotgun, Nak300
Pres/Power: Aerco MP2, tinybox v2  [KCY], CA-UBB
Decks: Sound Devices MixPre 6, Zoom F8, M10, D50

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May just be my old ears, but they sound remarkably similar to me. I would say I can't tell a difference by listening, so I guess that's the third choice (although I can hear them, just can't tell a difference between them). Thanks for posting the comp.

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May just be my old ears, but they sound remarkably similar to me. I would say I can't tell a difference by listening, so I guess that's the third choice (although I can hear them, just can't tell a difference between them). Thanks for posting the comp.

I agree 100%. I can't really tell a difference. Which says something huge about the cheaper kcy>TinyBox rig IMO!
Recording Gear:
Schoeps MK 4 (MP) & MK 41v (MP) Capsules ->
Schoeps 250/0 KCY's X2 ->
Naiant +60v/Low Noise PFA's x2 ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's x2 ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3 ->
SanDisk 128gb Extreme Pro & 64gb Ultra Plus SDXC-I

Portable Playback Gear:
Campfire Audio Andromeda & Dorado IEM's ->
Linum G2 SuperBax & Bax {3.5mm} | FiiO LC 2.5c {2.5mm} ->
Shanling Audio M5s | Sony NW-A35 DAP's

DAW:
Dell Inspiron 15 5570-5521 Laptop
(Pentium i5/8gb RAM/256gb SSD)

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