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Re: Tascam DR-60D (part 2) & upgraded DR-60Dmkii
« Reply #105 on: April 30, 2016, 12:10:23 PM »
Going off recollection, I think the op amp on the 1\8 is different than the op amp on the xlr inputs on the 70d.

I am glad the 60d has the 1\8 input and a single ganged control. 

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Re: Tascam DR-60D (part 2) & upgraded DR-60Dmkii
« Reply #106 on: April 30, 2016, 12:23:31 PM »
Going off recollection, I think the op amp on the 1\8 is different than the op amp on the xlr inputs on the 70d.

I am glad the 60d has the 1\8 input and a single ganged control. 

Yes, they def have different op amps! I swear I can hear a little more noise on the EXT 1/2 1/8" Input of the 70d compared to the 4 x XLR Inputs! I guess that's kind of expected! I was running an M10 as backup to my 70d, and I could SLIGHTLY hear a lil more noise on the M10 source, since it has the 1/8" input, compared to the quieter XLR Inputs of the 70d! That's another reason why I sold my last M10 and bought a 2nd 70d!

Just wondered if the 60d is the same way? I could only hear the noise during very quiet parts though.... And you prefer the single ganged control of channels 3/4 on the 60d? I could def see where that would be useful! Since I mainly run my VMS02IB into channels 3/4 of my 70d, I like being able to control left/right levels since the VMS just has a single gain knob :)
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Re: Tascam DR-60D (part 2) & upgraded DR-60Dmkii
« Reply #107 on: April 30, 2016, 11:00:35 PM »
I think there is also a difference in the xlr v 1/8 input op amps on the 60d as well, but again, I'm going off recollection or faulty imagination!

The only mics I use on the 1/8 input are a pair of AT853's or a pair of DPA 4061s.  I don't have a way of running either pair into the XLR inputs to compare to the 1/8 input.  But the ganged control is nice when using a pair of either of these mics which is the way I've got them set up. 

I have more problems with wookies messing with my mics and sound board operators messing up the sound than anything having to do with the recorder.   

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Re: Tascam DR-60D (part 2) & upgraded DR-60Dmkii
« Reply #108 on: May 01, 2016, 11:57:07 AM »
Never had an issues with my 1/8
I am using cables made by darktrain
I think the answer is simple and is what I suspected, use better cables...thanks all for the feedback!

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Re: Tascam DR-60D (part 2) & upgraded DR-60Dmkii
« Reply #109 on: May 02, 2016, 12:28:48 AM »
I think there is also a difference in the xlr v 1/8 input op amps on the 60d as well, but again, I'm going off recollection or faulty imagination!

The only mics I use on the 1/8 input are a pair of AT853's or a pair of DPA 4061s.  I don't have a way of running either pair into the XLR inputs to compare to the 1/8 input.  But the ganged control is nice when using a pair of either of these mics which is the way I've got them set up. 

I have more problems with wookies messing with my mics and sound board operators messing up the sound than anything having to do with the recorder.   

Thanks for the info 8) I love that the 60d/70d has Plug-In Power on that EXT 1/2 1/8" input too! I have never used it, but it sounds like you wouldn't need a BB/Preamp in front of the 60d/70d and could just run mini mics>EXT 1/2 Input w PIP ON and get sufficient gain :) Is that how you run your AT853's and DPA4061's ??? Pretty cool option IMO! Just another reason the 60d/70d are the best options out there, especially for the price :)
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Re: Tascam DR-60D (part 2) & upgraded DR-60Dmkii
« Reply #110 on: May 02, 2016, 10:25:06 AM »
I think the 60d and the 70d are both pretty cool, too.

So...last night I'm all set to record and this guy plops down next to my mics with a Sony DSLR and now I have a great recording with click, click, click...all over it. Saw it coming and tried to persuade him to shoot from another location to no avail.   Then there was the guy trying to cough up something behind me about 3/4 of the way through the concert. 

In the grand scheme of things, the recorders aren't really the problem anymore.

 

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Re: Tascam DR-60D (part 2) & upgraded DR-60Dmkii
« Reply #111 on: October 04, 2018, 05:52:22 PM »
Measured the PIP voltage with a multimeter and for both of the cables I tested (12” and 12’) it had a 2.485 V output. Compared to the ~2.25 V measured from my DR-22wl. So a 10% increase in comparison, but still not nearly enough to provide adequate power for CA-11/14s or AT-853s without a battery box.

I’d be interested to see what an M-10 puts out.
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Re: Tascam DR-60D (part 2) & upgraded DR-60Dmkii
« Reply #112 on: October 04, 2018, 06:59:19 PM »
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Re: Tascam DR-60D (part 2) & upgraded DR-60Dmkii
« Reply #113 on: October 05, 2018, 12:00:55 AM »
I’d be interested to see what an M-10 puts out.

https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=139856.0

That device is pretty spectacular.

I’m getting a DR-07 as part of a package deal in the YS (was a generous throw in!) and I’ll test it’s PIP voltage next.
Mics: Avantone CK-1s, CA-14 omnis
Pres: CA9100
Recorders: DR-60d mkII, DR-22wl, DR-07

 

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