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Re: Tascam DR-680 MKii
« Reply #225 on: December 26, 2019, 12:48:57 PM »
Edit: Well, the question is moot for tonight.  I don't have an XLR > TRS cable. Guess I'll just use two mics and get a feel for running the deck live.

If you want to run DUAL REC you'll need TRS into ch5/6 for the 3rd channel.
Without DUAL REC engaged you can use standard XLR cables to record up to four channels into chs1-4.
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Re: Tascam DR-680 MKii
« Reply #226 on: December 26, 2019, 01:33:26 PM »
Thanks!  I've been playing with it a little bit to try to get more familiar with it before I head out tonight. I agree with you that the gang function is more important that the DUAL REC function.  The level readout on this unit is quite a bit smaller and less well defined (there isn't much space between -16 and 0) than other units that I'm used to.  I'll just run conservatively to make sure I don't clip.

And thinking about it again, I may still run with the middle omni channel on input 3 with DUAL REC disabled just to see how it sounds.

It's funny, I feel like the leap I took going from cassette to DAT had a smaller learning curve than going from 2 inputs to 6.

I'll be recording another band tomorrow night, so at least I'll get some practice in with it.

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Re: Tascam DR-680 MKii
« Reply #227 on: December 26, 2019, 02:04:09 PM »
The level readout on this unit is quite a bit smaller and less well defined (there isn't much space between -16 and 0) than other units that I'm used to.  I'll just run conservatively to make sure I don't clip.

True.  Given the metering, it generally works well for me to aim to peak around the little line (-16dbFS) without limiters engaged.
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Re: Tascam DR-680 MKii
« Reply #228 on: December 27, 2019, 10:44:56 AM »
Thanks!  I've been playing with it a little bit to try to get more familiar with it before I head out tonight. I agree with you that the gang function is more important that the DUAL REC function.  The level readout on this unit is quite a bit smaller and less well defined (there isn't much space between -16 and 0) than other units that I'm used to.  I'll just run conservatively to make sure I don't clip.

Exactly.
My only complaint on this machine is that spacing of the dB readout.
Other than that, its very clean and very user friendly.  The learning curve is short.  Sure I made some light errors when it was new to me, but nothing affecting a recording I could not change in post.
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Re: Tascam DR-680 MKii
« Reply #229 on: December 27, 2019, 03:28:00 PM »
Well I made it through my first show, and it looks like I did alright with the metering.

I was playing around with it a bit... I used high gain for the first set and low gain for the second set.  I can't hear any appreciable difference and I didn't have to turn my trim up too much for the second set, so I'll just go with low gain from now on.

All in all it was a successful night, and I'll be running it again tonight.

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Re: Tascam DR-680 MKii
« Reply #230 on: December 27, 2019, 03:49:35 PM »
Congrats!

As long as you are able to dial in appropriate levels with the input-gain switch in either position, which way it is set won't matter much in typical taper situations. 

Exceptions:
Very high SPL material which would cause the input-stage to overload if set to high-gain. 
Extremely quiet recording situations where the noise-floor of the recorder may become audible if the input-stage gain were set to low-gain.
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Re: Tascam DR-680 MKii
« Reply #231 on: December 27, 2019, 04:55:31 PM »
Congrats!

As long as you are able to dial in appropriate levels with the input-gain switch in either position, which way it is set won't matter much in typical taper situations. 

Exceptions:
Very high SPL material which would cause the input-stage to overload if set to high-gain. 
Extremely quiet recording situations where the noise-floor of the recorder may become audible if the input-stage gain were set to low-gain.

I *think* the MKII has better preamps (although I still haven’t done a direct comparison), but I did run into an issue with my original 680. Acoustic guitar and vocal (unamplified) into a 57 and 58 respectively, with the gain switches set to Low. The amount of hiss on the recording was pretty annoying. Since then I’ve leaned towards using High gain unless something is really loud and/or I’m using a condenser that puts out a high level.

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Re: Tascam DR-680 MKii
« Reply #232 on: December 27, 2019, 05:41:43 PM »
Since then I’ve leaned towards using High gain unless something is really loud and/or I’m using a condenser that puts out a high level.

^ This is the technically correct answer.  To achieve lowest noise one wants most of the gain applied at the earliest analog stage rather than added via subsequent stages.  In addition to amplifying the signal, each subsequent amplification stage also amplifies the noise of all gain-stages preceding it.

Since most tapers are using condenser mics and recording in high noise-floor environments, the noise-floor of the recorder's input stage is usually be buried too deeply to matter.
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